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Old 08-20-2009, 11:57 AM
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Let's look at two threads here:

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What do those two threads have in common? They are both spurrious, profligate, lying crap. Now let's look at this, and perhaps you will see, just like the lead up to the Iraq War, just like in the last two elections, once more the democratic process in the US is being subjective to a Soviet-style disinformation campaign. Will we ever learn? :


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For other uses, see Disinformation (disambiguation).

Disinformation is false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is synonymous with and sometimes called Black propaganda. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or spreading malicious rumors and fabricated intelligence. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
In espionage or military intelligence, disinformation is the deliberate spreading of false information to mislead an enemy as to one's position or course of action. In politics, disinformation is the deliberate attempt to deflect voter support of an opponent, disseminating false statements of innuendo based on the candidates vulnerabilities as revealed by opposition research. In both cases, it also includes the distortion of true information in such a way as to render it useless.

Disinformation techniques may also be found in commerce and government, used to try to undermine the position of a competitor. It is an act of deception and blatant false statements to convince someone of an untruth. Cooking-the-books might be considered a disinformation strategy that led to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.

Unlike traditional propaganda and Big Lie techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions.

Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can effect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with a lot of easily-disproved false claims.
A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout).


The Cold War made disinformation a recognized military and political tactic. Military disinformation techniques were described by Vladimir Volkoff.
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1 Examples of disinformation
1.1 World War II
1.2 Disinformation by the CIA
1.3 Disinformation by the KGB
2 Other
3 See also
4 References
5 External links


[edit] Examples of disinformation
[edit] World War II

A classic example of disinformation was during World War II, preceding the D-Day landings, in what would be known as Operation Fortitude. British intelligence convinced the German Armed Forces that a much larger invasion force was about to cross the English Channel from Kent, England. In reality, the Normandy landings were the main attempt at establishing a beachhead, made easier by the German Command's reluctance to commit its armies.
Another act of World War II-era disinformation was Operation Mincemeat, where British intelligence dressed up a corpse, equipped it with fake invasion plans, and floated it out to sea where Axis troops would eventually recover it.

[edit] Disinformation by the CIA
In 1957 the CIA knew about the Mayak accident but the information was not released publicly because of the " (...) reluctance of the CIA to highlight a nuclear accident in the USSR, that could cause concern among people living near nuclear facilities in the USA. (...) ".[1]

In 1986, national security adviser John Poindexter wrote for President Ronald Reagan a "disinformation program" aimed at destabilizing Libya's Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi by planting reports in the foreign press about an impending conflict between the two countries. However, the false information eventually reached The Wall Street Journal—a phenomenon known in the trade as blowback [2].

[edit] Disinformation by the KGB

According to senior SVR officer Sergei Tretyakov, the KGB "created the myth of nuclear winter" (it is worth noting that the nuclear winter theory is widely accepted in the scientific community). Sergei, a former Colonel in the Russian KGB/SVR that defected to the United States in 2000, says during the 1970s the KGB wanted to prevent the United States from deploying Pershing II cruise missiles in Western Europe. The plan, under KGB Director Yuri Andropov, aimed at fostering popular opposition to the deployment included a massive disinformation campaign requiring false scientific reports from the Soviet Academy of Sciences and funding to European anti-nuclear and peace groups opposed to arms proliferation. The Soviet Peace Committee, a government organization, spearheaded the effort by funding and organizing demonstrations in Europe against the US bases.[3] [4] [5] The propaganda was then distributed to sources within environmental, peace, anti-nuclear, and disarmament groups including the publication Ambio.[3] The concept hit mainstream from there and propelled into popular culture with the help of Carl Sagan [6].

The following examples of Soviet disinformation against the United States are described by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin[7]:

Promotion of false John F. Kennedy assassination theories through writer Mark Lane who had meetings with several Soviet agents including Genrikh Borovik. Lane denies these allegations.

Discreditation of the CIA, using historian Philip Agee (codenamed PONT). Agee has denied the claim.
Attempts to discredit Martin Luther King, Jr. by placing publications portraying him as an "Uncle Tom" who was secretly receiving government subsidies.

Stirring up racial tensions in the United States by mailing bogus letters from the Ku Klux Klan, placing an explosive package in "the Negro section of New York" (operation PANDORA), and spreading conspiracy theories that Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination had been planned by the US government.

Fabrication of the story that AIDS virus was manufactured by US scientists at Fort Detrick; the story was spread by Russian-born biologist Jakob Segal
[edit] Other

Former Mossad case worker Victor Ostrovsky claims that the Israeli secret service successfully used disinformation techniques to cause the US to blame Libya for the 1986 bombing of La Belle Discothèque in West Berlin.[1]

[edit] See also
Active measures
AIDS conspiracy theories
Black propaganda
Counter Misinformation Team
False flag operation
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD)
Information warfare
Internet brigades
Propaganda
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

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What I believe in is the truth. If you are swallowing this crap, don't give me speeches about "fairy tales" when the Internet is currently under assault by an army of right wing kooks spreading these kinds of emails, Tinkerbell. I am amazed that a group of people trying to overturn a legal election in the United States using armed mobs, false information and screamers and shouters drowning out debate seems to think the other side has totalitarian designs. Like Barney Frank said, it is a credit to the First Amendment that this country can be awash in all this total crap and still function. Myself, I am a whole lot more worried about a political party that constantly stoops to this kind of stuff turning out to being the party that takes away our freedom than I am about a party that has been elected into both houses and the presidency by the people any day.

I would also ask you to keep your "democraps" comments out of your post, otherwise someone might think you are a vile, insulting twit.


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once more the democratic process in the US is being subjective to a Soviet-style disinformation campaign. Will we ever learn?
You've made this claim at least once before in another thread, wasn't the "Soviet-style" disinformation campaign conducted, directed, and coordinated by an oppressive centralized government? What oppressive centralized government is conducting, directing, and coordinating what you see?

Aren't all the examples you give in your post goverment activities?

Previous claim:

“it needs to be exposed and countered for what it is: Pravda-style disinformation”

http://www.peachparts.com//shopforum/showthread.php?t=258316&highlight=pravda
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What I believe in is the truth. If you are swallowing this crap, don't give me speeches about "fairy tales" when the Internet is currently under assault by an army of right wing kooks spreading these kinds of emails, Tinkerbell. I am amazed that a group of people trying to overturn a legal election in the United States using armed mobs, false information and screamers and shouters drowning out debate seems to think the other side has totalitarian designs. Like Barney Frank said, it is a credit to the First Amendment that this country can be awash in all this total crap and still function. Myself, I am a whole lot more worried about a political party that constantly stoops to this kind of stuff turning out to being the party that takes away our freedom than I am about a party that has been elected into both houses and the presidency by the people any day.

I would also ask you to keep your "democraps" comments out of your post, otherwise someone might think you are a vile, insulting twit.
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What do those two threads have in common? They are both spurrious, profligate, lying crap.
You're far more entertaining, when you write wonderful nuggets like the following:

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All the women I have dated over the Internet stayed with me for good. My dog disinterrs them occasionally, finding the occasional femur or jawbone he has drug about the yard is getting annoying.
A little unsolicited advice...stick to comedy. It's definitely your strong suit.


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