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The best health care system in the world
If you think it's the US system, keep on dreaming. The problem goes well beyond uneven insurance coverage. Among Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, and the US, the US system is the most expensive and the least efficient, safe, and coordinated, in addition to having the biggest inequity. The only categories where the US scored well was waiting times for specialized care if you have good insurance (second only to Germany) and supposedly it's the best when it comes to preventive care (again if you have good insurance), which actually surprised me. However waiting times for primary and emergency care are not as good as in the other countries. Here's a link to the comparative study done by the Commonwealth Fund, as of 2007:
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/Fund-Reports/2007/May/Mirror--Mirror-on-the-Wall--An-International-Update-on-the-Comparative-Performance-of-American-Healt.aspx And here's a summary performance chart: As to overall rankings in the whole world, there's an older study dating back to 2000 that puts the US system at #37. France was #1. It would have been interesting to see the French system included in the first and newer study. http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
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Those are some enlightening comparisons. It would be interesting to see those numbers parsed according to 'private' vs 'public' health care systems.
How many countries don't have a public healthcare system? I've heard that the US is the only first world country without one. What about the rest of the world? Lots of other interesting data on that WHO site. If you look at this table: http://www.photius.com/rankings/world_cup_football_ranks.html One might conclude that the better your national football team, the better your health care efficiency when compared to the USA.
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I think you're right. In addition, the US is the only country in the world that refuses to co-operate by embrasing the metric system (a much simpler system yo use). But we are still quite young as a county. We haven't existed long enough to form a well-entrenched cuture, or much less be able to tell the rest of the world how to live.
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In Canada, I believe the healthcare systems are run by the Provinces and not the national government. Still universal coverage but different than the UK as I understand it.
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I think you're right. The Canadian provinces are almost run like separate countries, but I believe they all are required to provide public health care and education among other things, per federal guidelines. I'm not sure if say England and Scotland have separate administration of health care, but I don't think it matters. In all those other countries, health care is a citizen's right, not a privilege like here. I think if "socialized" medicine were so bad as the naysayers say, we'd see that reflected in the stats.
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Speaking of "bad" and "stats", yesterday I saw a TV commercial, probably paid for by the insurance lobby, that featured one woman playing a breast cancer survivor (maybe she really is, I don't know) who urges people to oppose a "government takeover of health care". She cites stats that show that England has a worse breast cancer survival rate than the US and uses that to say that X number of more women will die in the US if government takes over our health care. Talk about dishonest cherry-picking and fear mongering. What about other cancers and factors and other countries with govt health care? In fact I've read that overall Europe has a higher cancer survival rate than the US. Sure there are some exceptions, and this UK breast cancer thing is probably one of them. But to cherry pick like that and use that as the whole argument against govt health care just really makes me mad.
BTW, here are some breast cancer survival rates: Quote:
EDIT: upon reading more into this, it seems that later implementation of screening in England is a big factor. Notice in the chart below how their breast cancer detection and survival have BOTH increased over the years:
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Republican spokesperson Glenn Beck recently was blabbing on his show about how everyone would "lose the best healthcare system in the world"....where, when not a year and a half earlier when he was working for CNN, he did a number of stories and coverage on the "Nightmare that is the American Healthcare system"....and said all kinds of horrible things about it.
Typical.
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Obamas healthscare plan is certainly not the answer. I'd rather keep the coverage I have than give it up for the fiasco he trying to force on us.
Make it an option: If the O-bots want this kind of plan let them have it. Those of us who like what we currently have should have the option to keep it.
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Fine, but don't shake my wallet to pay for that mess.
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Your wallet is more likely to be shaken if nothing is done. Look at the current cost trends and this is before any reform.
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