Originally Posted by 10fords

I don't consider national defense to be a social program. But I bet if we privatized it , it would be more efficient and cost less. About the education- unfortunately in most cases your children will only get an education if you can afford private school. The public schools are too busy teaching diversity, political correctness, and victimhood to actually give the kids an education they can use to compete with the
Asian and Indian kids who are being given an old fashioned ACADEMIC education.

Originally Posted by RichC

Taco Bell textbooks in our schools ???

The KFC Yellostone National Park ?

Originally Posted by 10fords

I don't consider national defense to be a social program. .

Originally Posted by 10fords

I don't consider national defense to be a social program. But I bet if we privatized it , it would be more efficient and cost less.

Originally Posted by RichC

Go look up all the recent failures of Blackwater.
Thats what we will get if we privatize the military.

And what form of education do you think the Asian and Indian kids get that you say our kids cannot compete with ??

( hint: it aint private schools )

Originally Posted by RichC

Its sounds like your a little paranoid to me. If you really think the goal of social programms are set up to try and influence controll over the way you live your life.

If your fire department is staffed by the people of the area volentarrily then it is true socialism.
Where did the money come from to build the buildings, pay for the firetrucks, etc..
Probably a government grant in there somewhere.
Which makes it a social program.

The dump that your trash is taken to by the private garbage collection you have is probably at least partially supported by government programms.

Hell, even that Coca Cola your drinking is subsidized by the government.
The government subsidizes farmers that grow corn.
And the main use of corn today is for sweetners like high fructose corn syrup that goes into soft drinks.

Government grants and subsidies have also paid for many things about the generation and distrobution of electricicty in the US.
The grants to develop new technology of generating power down to the lowly city telephone pole.

Every one of us owes our jobs to the government in some way or another.
We are all part of a society.
No man is a complete island all to himself.

This is what democracy is.
We the people are the government.
Government is not something seperate from us.
There is no, "they" that are trying to controll you in government.
This is a government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Big business, is the one that wants to control you.
Get you to buy more, spend more, work more.
Become a volentary slave.

The origional post in this thread was written for one of the major community organization programs.

Originally Posted by Emmerich

You didn't answer the question about what you do for a living, you are a welfare sucker, is that right?

And Blackwater has a purpose. The purpose has not failed, although I am sure they have had incidents or projects that did not go as planned, as has our military and any other organization.

Originally Posted by tankdriver

What about highways? There are thousands of miles of road that are in between towns. And thousands of towns that even with 50% participation (a ludicrously high example) could not afford road repair. Not to mention, the road already exists.

Originally Posted by tankdriver

If the government isn't going to own the road, who is going to buy it from them? And why would I contribute to the maintenance of the road if there are others allowed to use it who do not? And who allows or disallows them?

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Trash and water are a profitable business.

Taxpayers are already broke, and the government is running deep into the red. We can't afford public healthcare.

Originally Posted by RichC

Public Roads
Public Parks
and the
Public Health care Option

By Rich C.

Yesterday I found myself on a public sidewalk, next to a public road, near a public park, holding
public health care option sign.

I wanted to see for my self, some of the craziness thats been on TV.
While I was there taking in the sights, engrossed in what was going on.

I got to thinking about how many social programs that we have in the United States.
And how much we really depend on them.

I realized that a lot of the things we take for granted, like the water we drink, the toilet we flush, and the trash we throw away are all taken care of by social programs.

We drive on public streets, taking our children to public schools or the public library
We rely on public servants like the police the fire department, and the military to help keep us safe.

Not to mention the countless other programs we barely think of unless we need them, like Social Security, the Food and Drug Administration or the Veterans Administration.

Heck, everything about our government is a social program.
And everyone there, from the president himself to white house pages, are all public servants, and on the public payroll.

I was just standing there thinking for a while with my sign in my hand.
When noises from the other side of the street attracted my attention.
Someone from a passing car yelled something out the window, and other people started yelling back.
Something about Socialism destroying America.

I wondered if the people on the other side of the street understood the irony of holding an anti public health care option sign while standing on one of the most successful social programsin America.
The public highway system.

But I guess this is still a free county, and they have every right to be there.
I was glad they were. At least they were participating in this thing we call a Democracy.
Its more than I had been doing for a good long while.

The next time you turn on the faucet, take out the trash or hear a siren in the distance think
about all the good things public options already do for us.
And think about supporting the public health care option.

Come on out to the next health care rally, I'll meet you there.
Or contact your local congress person.
Because we can do great things, if we work together.
Yes we can.

Originally Posted by 10fords

Where is the moderator?

Originally Posted by MTUpower

Who pays for the roads now... the tooth fairy?

Originally Posted by 10fords

Nothing more needs to be said . This post reveals where you get your ideas from comrade Rich. I would have thought ACORN would have bought you a spellcheck program for your computer though.

Originally Posted by 10fords

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT AT THE TOP OF THIS POST IT SAYS 'By RichC" YET NOTHING IS MISSPELLED? THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS REPLY TO MY POST IT SAYS THE ORIGINAL POST IN THIS THREAD WAS WRITTEN FOR ONE OF THE MAJOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION PROGRAMS!!!! I thought this was an open discussion forum, not a place to disseminate propaganda!!! Where is the moderator? Nevermind- I just read the rules and there isn't anything prohibiting plagiarism or propaganda or both.