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Old 09-06-2009, 05:45 PM
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Cincinnati's Anti-discrimination Policy

The city of Cincinnati has given new meaning to the word “anti-discrimination.” I was recently informed by a long-time Ohio resident that Cincinnati has long had a policy of ruining well-established neighborhoods by interspersing low-rent (section 8) apartment buildings just about everywhere; and I have come to find this is sadly true. Once the lacking-of-culture move in, the older residents, who have supported the city for so many years, must move out just to maintain their own dignity. And they must do so before their property values plummet even further than what the housing crisis has already caused. This sounds like discrimination to me, but discrimination directed at established tax payers. My observation is not a race thing or a rich/poor thing, but the question of being allowed to live in a civilized manner or not.

It seems there is an unwritten rule of non-discrimination against improperly-equipped motor vehicles here as well. Until now, I’ve never had to suffer from the overly-abundant amount of shrieking cars and trucks running around, piercing the eardrums of all within a 5-block radius by means of broken exhaust systems, echo cans, gargantuan holes in their mufflers, or total lack of mufflers all together.

When I was searching for my house back in November, I was shocked when my realtor told me that there used to be a required smog inspection for motor vehicles here in Cincy, but no longer. I must be missing something here: Cincy ranks #10 in most polluted cities in the country and yet, we no longer need to curb the crud coming from the exhaust pipe. No, the city does not discriminate against junkers that don’t belong on the road to begin with.

As a newly-arrived out-of-stater, I cannot speak for the entire state of Ohio, but after close to a year of living here in Cincy, I can say that this city is in a constant state of chaos, but thank God there is no discrimination against, or lack of jobs for road crews. Again, I must be missing something. In all the places I have lived, including two third-world countries that can put Cincy’s roads to shame, I have never seen such a pandemonium of pavement. Occasionally, a road not fit for beast or carriage is finally paved smooth with asphalt just to be torn up in only three weeks, and then patched with concrete. I-75: We all know about that one. That’s the highway to avoid at all possible costs. So in the end, if we choose to keep our vehicles from becoming old before their time – built-in obsolescence not withstanding – we must swerve all over the road, using all lanes available, to avoid the never-ending patches and potholes. And if we’re lucky, we won’t be stopped by one of Cincy’s finest for suspicion of drunk driving.

Yes, it’s good to know that here in Cincinnati we don’t suffer from discrimination of any form. We all share the same city-mandated run-down roads and neighborhoods, and questionable quality of life – much of which can attributed to noise not just from lack of car mufflers but from ghetto gang-bangers in their pimped-out cars and the boom-boom-boom from the floor speakers stuffed in their trunks.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:13 PM
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If you think that Cincinnati's roads are bad....have you ever been to Michigan ?

I'd defend Cincinnati, but I've spent too much of my life here to trust myself. I like to think that if I ever got **that** sick of this place I'd move.

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:30 PM
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Are you sure your observation is not a race thing? Ghetto gang bangers and their boom boom boom are ruining neighborhoods?
In the 60s, people used to move out when black people moved into white neighborhoods too.

In Ohio, there is no emissions testing. And every American city I've lived in has HUD money-inspired rules about supplying low cost housing in developments. Even the DC burbs, where real estate development (on the VA side anyway) has reached tentacles into state government.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:19 AM
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In Ohio, there is no emissions testing. And every American city I've lived in has HUD money-inspired rules about supplying low cost housing in developments. Even the DC burbs, where real estate development (on the VA side anyway) has reached tentacles into state government.
Wrong...some areas still need to have vehicles E-checked to be able to get tags.

Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Medina, Portage & Summit counties still have it.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:48 AM
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Cincys e-check was a bloated, illrun and ineffectual mess. It served it main purpose in the first two years which was to get the majority of the clunkers off the road, kind of a no cash for clunkers program. after a while all you needed was a buddy in the business to get by so they closed it down
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:31 AM
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In the 60s, people used to move out when black people moved into white neighborhoods too.
If "X" moved into your neighborhood and your property value sank like a rock what would you do? Sing Kum-Ba-Ya? Economic realities trump the race card. Does not matter what moved into the place, if property values plummet then people leave. Trying to ignore this is sticking your head in the sand.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:16 PM
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So I sez to myself - "Self, I bet it would take a string of Democrat mayors a quarter century to turn a formerly great city like Cincinnati into just another 3rd world 5hithole".

Well, what do you know? I'm right again!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Cincinnati

Simply amazing............
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If "X" moved into your neighborhood and your property value sank like a rock what would you do? Sing Kum-Ba-Ya? Economic realities trump the race card. Does not matter what moved into the place, if property values plummet then people leave. Trying to ignore this is sticking your head in the sand.
What do you think happened to property values in the 60s when black people moved into white neighborhoods?
Perhaps the "lacking-in-culture" are not the new arrivals but the close minded residents. Perhaps being open to difference will result in acknowledgement of similarities.
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What do you think happened to property values in the 60s when black people moved into white neighborhoods?
Perhaps the "lacking-in-culture" are not the new arrivals but the close minded residents. Perhaps being open to difference will result in acknowledgement of similarities.
"lacking-in-culture"????? Is that the democratic term for what you worked and earned and busted your ass thirty years for just dropped 30% in value? How can you speak or type with your head in the sand?
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"lacking-in-culture"????? Is that the democratic term for what you worked and earned and busted your ass thirty years for just dropped 30% in value? How can you speak or type with your head in the sand?
It is a phrase from the OP.
My head is not in the sand. I ask again:
What do you think happened to property values in the 60s when black people moved into white neighborhoods?
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its not the people that buy houses that are the issue. they work hard and value things the same as anyone else. its the section 8 houses and renters that make a nice neighborhood go to ****. this is true for black white or whatever. ownership makes the difference. renters will always bring a place down. so putting rentals in any neighborhood, no matter where, is a sure recipe for low property values
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What do you think happened to property values in the 60s when black people moved into white neighborhoods?
Perhaps the "lacking-in-culture" are not the new arrivals but the close minded residents. Perhaps being open to difference will result in acknowledgement of similarities.
Thanks for keeping us on the moral path tankdriver. It's sad how little our life experiences are worth compared with your vision of how things ought to be.
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It is a phrase from the OP.
My head is not in the sand. I ask again:
What do you think happened to property values in the 60s when black people moved into white neighborhoods?

However, black in-migration was associated with falling prices in
cities relative to their suburbs, which implies that the migrants themselves reduced the
perceived value of urban living.

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I find example after example for you. Then you still do not believe. That is pretty much a definition of head in the sand.

Not really sure why you are trying to narrow it down to just the 60's- perhaps you have some secret study that shows blacks moving into white neighborhoods actually increased the property values from 66-69. Why don't you find some studies that show across the board property values rising when blacks move into a neighborhood?
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perhaps you have some secret study that shows blacks moving into white neighborhoods actually increased the property values from 66-69.
No I don't. In fact the opposite, which is my point.
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No I don't. In fact the opposite, which is my point.
No- that was my point - which leads us right back to this-
"lacking-in-culture"????? Is that the democratic term for what you worked and earned and busted your ass thirty years for just dropped 30% in value?


So some white guy instead of being worried about his life's saving going down the drain should say to himself (and his wife and kids) "I'm going to get some Black culture in me, cause you know it's what's been missing in my life. Yeah I know I just lost a third of my life savings, but that's okay- now I'll learn how to integrate into the black lifestyle and "culture"".


Are you for real or is someone paying you to write this stuff?

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