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Old 09-13-2009, 01:47 PM
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Anyone have an electric DA sander they like?

I had a Ryobi but the hook-and-loop (velcro) pad always wore out. Need a new one. Going to HD soon. Recommendations?

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Old 09-13-2009, 02:36 PM
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I'm liking my DeWalt 4 inch square, maybe 4.5 inch pretty well. I've worn out two Porter Cable quicksand models, which they don't make any more, and the hook and loop thing can be annoying. The Velcro gets tired eventually and replacing the platter is not cheap, IIRC.

**EDIT** It is 4.5 inch. They call it a quarter sheet sander - you cut up a 9 by 11 sheet of paper into fourths and the long dimension is for fitting under the clamps.

With the square dealy, it takes a bit longer to mount the paper, with the bracket things, but you get quick at it and the paper cost is much less. You can also get into corners with it, with the square shape.

It comes with a plastic thing that you pop over the platter to poke holes in the paper so it can do the dust suck up thingy through the holes in the platter. Seems to work pretty well.

I had a guy working for me the other day so I bought the new Porter Cable circular orbital sander as I had a huge box of the hook and loop sandpaper discs still left. They use the 8 hole now, everyone else does, my box was the old 5 hole but I switched the platten from one of my dead ones to the new one. The 8 hole switch makes sense as it's a lot easier to find discs with 8 holes. Seems to be a decent tool.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:08 PM
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I'm liking my DeWalt 4 inch square, maybe 4.5 inch pretty well. I've worn out two Porter Cable quicksand models, which they don't make any more, and the hook and loop thing can be annoying. The Velcro gets tired eventually and replacing the platter is not cheap, IIRC.

**EDIT** It is 4.5 inch. They call it a quarter sheet sander - you cut up a 9 by 11 sheet of paper into fourths and the long dimension is for fitting under the clamps.

With the square dealy, it takes a bit longer to mount the paper, with the bracket things, but you get quick at it and the paper cost is much less. You can also get into corners with it, with the square shape.

It comes with a plastic thing that you pop over the platter to poke holes in the paper so it can do the dust suck up thingy through the holes in the platter. Seems to work pretty well.
I believe I have the same Dewalt palm sander. It works pretty well. I like the clamping mechanism. I think it was only about $50 at Lowes.

The vacuum suction works ok, maybe I'll try hooking up a shop vac to it and see how it does.
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I was thinking the round dual-orbit. But you have me thinking about the 1/4 sheet. They just seem slower. But I haven't used one in a while. I used to use a Makita one a long time ago. HD has a DeWalt 5" dual-orbit for 69.95 with a case.
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I use the Ryobi with the Velcro platter. The platter wears out every so often.........but, otherwise it's a good machine.

These DA's severely outperform any of the orbital vibrating type units referenced above.
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I've got a DeWalt 4-1/2"? round sander. I have a hose on it that attaches to my shop vac. It uses the velcro pads and when the platter wears out I'll smooth it down buy the much cheaper adhesive backed sand paper.
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Old 09-13-2009, 08:51 PM
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Makita makes an amazing sander I love it!
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I believe I have the same Dewalt palm sander. It works pretty well. I like the clamping mechanism. I think it was only about $50 at Lowes.

The vacuum suction works ok, maybe I'll try hooking up a shop vac to it and see how it does.
S'funny, I just gave mine the most serious workout it's gotten so far. I'm refinishing a deck for a lady, a big one, it's mostly finished but a few parts didn't turn out so well and I'm going to make her happy. She is well $endowed and seems to like me and she lives nearby, relatively speaking.

I was surprised at how well the dust self-collecting setup works. I would empty the little bag pretty regular cause at first I didn't think to and when I did, it was nearly full. It didn't take long to fill the thing halfway.

I forget the math, but if you buy the 80 grit stuff in the 20 sheet box, the price per quarter comes out way less than the hook and loop discs.

I didn't think I'd use these again myself but it has advantages.
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I use the Ryobi with the Velcro platter. The platter wears out every so often.........but, otherwise it's a good machine.

These DA's severely outperform any of the orbital vibrating type units referenced above.
What does the "DA" stand for? Is that dual action, as in spins in tiny circles and the one big one? The big circular spin is not too fast, on some of the old ones it didn't have the regulator band inside and it went way too fast. You'd have to hold it down on the work before turning it on or else risk gouging the work.

I gotta tell you, my new square DeWalt is no slouch in the sanding dept. I'll have to do a side by side comparison with my new Porter Cable.
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Whay are you guys using the electrics on? Woodworking? I cant think a square pad is good for auto paint prep work.
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Haven't used one on an auto yet, but it saves a lot of time and energy in woodworking.

One small drawback on some applications - occasionally you can see the tiny little orbital scratch marks from the sanding action. Ususally moving down to finer grit for finish up will solve that.
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What's a "DA sander"?
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What does the "DA" stand for? Is that dual action, as in spins in tiny circles and the one big one? The big circular spin is not too fast, on some of the old ones it didn't have the regulator band inside and it went way too fast. You'd have to hold it down on the work before turning it on or else risk gouging the work.

I gotta tell you, my new square DeWalt is no slouch in the sanding dept. I'll have to do a side by side comparison with my new Porter Cable.
Yes. Dual Action. But now I think they are mostly called Random Orbit. I know a lot of "old terminology." I am very interested about these reports here about 1/4 sheet square sanders being fairly aggressive. My past experience is they are just for finishing. But the RO/DA can be a bit aggressive sometimes. But I don't want to buy both!! (I did buy the DeWalt from HD for 69.98 and it came with 20 discs of paper so that was a nice freebe...) Haven't tried it out yet. My main concern is it is a bit large and heavy compared to the 1/4 sheet ones. I would have preferred Makita but HD doesn't do them anymore (or Bosch or Hitachi either.) Since they picked up Hilti and Milwaukee. They guy at HD said they were getting a lot of the Milwaukee sanders back which surprised me since I think that brand is pretty good.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:20 PM
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I have a Bosch Radom Orbit sander as well as the same square Dewalt that Cmac has. I like them both, but use them for different purposes.
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I have to correct what I said about HD not carrying Makita and Bosch. They have both, just not in all the categories. They don't have either in random orbit sanders. They have a 1/4 sheet Makita at my store.

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