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Old 09-23-2009, 02:12 AM
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Ask your doctor if Believia is right for you

I thought that just because I was eating right and getting plenty of exercise, my mind and body would retain their youthful vigor and innocence. But then my doctor told me I was getting age related Skepticimia, a chronic inability to absorb and believe messages about products that might be able to help me. What’s more, he said it gets worse as I get older. That’s when he told me about once a month Believia. He said it re-establishes brain pathways that aid incredulity. And unlike other medications that have to be taken daily, Believia does its work with just one pill a month. I can handle that.

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Do not use or handle Believia if you are operating machinery, becoming pregnant, or operating pregnancy machinery. Common side effects include headaches, dizziness, memory loss, temporary night blindness, and chronic gullibility. Ask your doctor if Believia is right for you. And believe him.

I have just one life to live and I don’t want to miss any product that could help make that life stronger, better, or just more expensive. That’s why I’m relying on once a month Believia, so the message gets through.

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Old 09-23-2009, 07:50 AM
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They should ban advertising for the drugs that drug companies make. Their commercials are crap and they're just wasting R&D money anyways.
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:26 AM
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POS I completely agree with you!!!!!
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:37 AM
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F*ck my FIL switched doctors after his heart surgery. He's 74. He went on Crestor, started experiencing joint pain. He also has type II diabetes so he was on drugs for that too. Anyway, doctor changed him out to Lipitor. He still had joint pain so doctor prescribed Neurontin. Still had joint pain, the cholesterol wasn't "normal" like the doc wanted so they upped his Lipitor. More pain, more Neurontin. The doc said the pain he as experiencing was a result of poor circulation because of diabetes.

Anyway while on all these meds he fell like three times because he just lost his balance. Doctor said it was because he was getting old. Fine. But my MIL had enough of it and since she didn't see any improvement she switched doctors again. Guess what? The joint pain wasn't because he was diabetic, it was mild arthritis from getting old! So they lowered his cholesterol meds. So his cholesterol was a little over 200, big deal. Let him have his Neurontin which he hasn't taken since his cholesterol meds were reduced, and now he can exercise again because he's not in pain and his blood sugar is way down.

What a f*ckin' douchebag of a doctor. I feel like punching him in the face.
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I thought that just because I was eating right and getting plenty of exercise, my mind and body would retain their youthful vigor and innocence. But then my doctor told me I was getting age related Skepticimia, a chronic inability to absorb and believe messages about products that might be able to help me. What’s more, he said it gets worse as I get older. That’s when he told me about once a month Believia. He said it re-establishes brain pathways that aid incredulity. And unlike other medications that have to be taken daily, Believia does its work with just one pill a month. I can handle that.

voiceover:

Do not use or handle Believia if you are operating machinery, becoming pregnant, or operating pregnancy machinery. Common side effects include headaches, dizziness, memory loss, temporary night blindness, spending money you don't have, telling people "change!", avoiding questions about your college years, falling in love with racist women, losing your ability to talk without a teleprompter and not say "ah, um" ten times a minute, and chronic gullibility. Ask your doctor if Believia is right for you. And believe him.

I have just one life to live and I don’t want to miss any product that could help make that life stronger, better, or just more expensive. That’s why I’m relying on once a month Believia, so the message gets through.
Obama's zombies put this into in blue Kool-aid and the masses drank it.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:21 AM
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F*ck my FIL switched doctors after his heart surgery. He's 74. He went on Crestor, started experiencing joint pain. He also has type II diabetes so he was on drugs for that too. Anyway, doctor changed him out to Lipitor. He still had joint pain so doctor prescribed Neurontin. Still had joint pain, the cholesterol wasn't "normal" like the doc wanted so they upped his Lipitor. More pain, more Neurontin. The doc said the pain he as experiencing was a result of poor circulation because of diabetes.

Anyway while on all these meds he fell like three times because he just lost his balance. Doctor said it was because he was getting old. Fine. But my MIL had enough of it and since she didn't see any improvement she switched doctors again. Guess what? The joint pain wasn't because he was diabetic, it was mild arthritis from getting old! So they lowered his cholesterol meds. So his cholesterol was a little over 200, big deal. Let him have his Neurontin which he hasn't taken since his cholesterol meds were reduced, and now he can exercise again because he's not in pain and his blood sugar is way down.

What a f*ckin' douchebag of a doctor. I feel like punching him in the face.
if you read the disclaimer that most doctors have a patient SIGN, it says something about 'the practice of medicine'. they are all merely 'practicing' and they happen to be 'practicing' on us! i've been through the 'doctor' search to find someone who could really help me with various medical issues (just waded through three myself to finally locate the right one). I believe in the 80/20 rule, that is 80% are just doin' enough to bring in a pay check. you have to look hard to find the 20% that are interested in really finding a solution for your medical problems. it might only be 1-3% that have their act together. the problem is that finding the RIGHT doctor may involve trial and error. the system is working.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:27 AM
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I Believia I need some Viagera!
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:33 AM
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if you read the disclaimer that most doctors have a patient SIGN, it says something about 'the practice of medicine'. they are all merely 'practicing' and they happen to be 'practicing' on us! i've been through the 'doctor' search to find someone who could really help me with various medical issues (just waded through three myself to finally locate the right one). I believe in the 80/20 rule, that is 80% are just doin' enough to bring in a pay check. you have to look hard to find the 20% that are interested in really finding a solution for your medical problems. it might only be 1-3% that have their act together. the problem is that finding the RIGHT doctor may involve trial and error. the system is working.
Guess what? New doc called him at the house to just talk for about 10 minutes about how he was doing.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:10 PM
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Obama's zombies put this into in blue Kool-aid and the masses drank it.
I just knew Obama was behind this.
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I just knew Obama was behind this.
R. Reagan was the original beta tester however. Jimmy Carter tried a formula that only worked for the first 3 months.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:21 PM
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F*ck my FIL switched doctors after his heart surgery. He's 74. He went on Crestor, started experiencing joint pain. He also has type II diabetes so he was on drugs for that too. Anyway, doctor changed him out to Lipitor. He still had joint pain so doctor prescribed Neurontin. Still had joint pain, the cholesterol wasn't "normal" like the doc wanted so they upped his Lipitor. More pain, more Neurontin. The doc said the pain he as experiencing was a result of poor circulation because of diabetes.

Anyway while on all these meds he fell like three times because he just lost his balance. Doctor said it was because he was getting old. Fine. But my MIL had enough of it and since she didn't see any improvement she switched doctors again. Guess what? The joint pain wasn't because he was diabetic, it was mild arthritis from getting old! So they lowered his cholesterol meds. So his cholesterol was a little over 200, big deal. Let him have his Neurontin which he hasn't taken since his cholesterol meds were reduced, and now he can exercise again because he's not in pain and his blood sugar is way down.

What a f*ckin' douchebag of a doctor. I feel like punching him in the face.
Whoa, a bad fall or two and he's out of frying pan, into the fire.

I got the OP bit from Harry Shearer's public radio program "le Show." They played that after he recounted the news about:

Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer has agreed to pay a record $2.3 billion settlement to resolve criminal and civil liability for illegally promoting certain pharmaceuticals, the Justice Department announced Wednesday.

More at:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/09/02/Pfizer.fine/index.html

Turns out it's the record fine for anything, anywhere. More:

One of those drugs was the anti-inflammatory medication Bextra, which Pfizer pulled off the market in 2005 after it was linked to increasing the risk of heart attacks and strokes.

"Pfizer promoted the sale of Bextra for several uses and dosages that the FDA specifically declined to approve due to safety concerns," the Justice Department said in a news release.


Shearer is also one of the Spinal Tap guys and does voices on The Simpsons now and then. I like his show - you can download podcasts or just listen to it at:

http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/ls
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if you read the disclaimer that most doctors have a patient SIGN, it says something about 'the practice of medicine'. they are all merely 'practicing' and they happen to be 'practicing' on us! i've been through the 'doctor' search to find someone who could really help me with various medical issues (just waded through three myself to finally locate the right one). I believe in the 80/20 rule, that is 80% are just doin' enough to bring in a pay check. you have to look hard to find the 20% that are interested in really finding a solution for your medical problems. it might only be 1-3% that have their act together. the problem is that finding the RIGHT doctor may involve trial and error. the system is working.
leading cause of death in this country (last I checked):

1. Heart failure
2. Cancer
3. Hospitals
4. reactions to pharmaceutical drugs.

I used to have a friend who was a pharmacist. 2-3 times a week she would get a script that conflicted with other drugs the patient was on. in some cases, a potential deadly combination. she would call Dr. feel good to inform him that he had prescribed a drug which she could not legally fill.

half the time the docs would start arguing with her and ORDER her to fill the friggin prescription!!!! she had to quietly inform Dr. feel good that "Doc, I'm not going to jail for you or anyone, so forget it". they'd usually change their tune after she laid that one on them........
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:24 AM
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It is a trip all right. Clearly some pharmaceuticals are a serious benefit, Godsend, you name it. I recently screwed up and broke a few ribs (don't ever do it, trust me) and just the pain meds are pretty useful in such a situation. Vicodin, etc. really helped me to get through it. And antibiotics can be a real boon.

The history channel now and then runs info on what people used to have to go through to TRY to get rid of syphilis or gonorrhea. Whoa.

But big pharma strikes me as sorta outta control. The most profitable business in the world and it acts like they are determined to maintain that status in perpetuity, one way or t'other, whether people really need every new product or not.
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Old 09-24-2009, 06:04 AM
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Truly. Unfortunately the way they are trained most Docs believe that there is a drug for any symptom. Often a drug is then prescribed for side effects caused by the first drug. A good pharmisist is your friend and if a new drug is prescribed ask your pharmisist about the side effects and their possible interacction with your other drugs. They know more about drugs than the Docs, generally and are much more likely to pick up things like the story above.

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