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doing his part to push healthcare reform
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I like the first ad better. The second one implies that health insurance should be free. It shouldn't but it shouldn't be for huge profits either.
Ever wonder why so many in Congress oppose the public insurance option? Two words: campaign contributions!
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Ever wonder why people are for it? Somebody picks up the tab if you can't.
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I can't speak for other people but that's not why I'm for it. I'm for it because with a public system more of my dollars would go toward actual health care for me. You apparently like to see your health dollars go toward outrageous insurance CEO compensation and other BS.
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As opposed to giving the govt another pot of money to steal from and later have to borrow to fix it? Sure.
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The administrative costs don't lie, no matter how you twist them. Private insurance companies are really efficient at making money for themselves, I'll give you that. But they're terrible in giving policy holders good value for their money.
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I have to believe that even with a video game mentality where each quarter buys a totally new game and the past history has no significance on the future and even with your belief that we need a nanny to avoid biting the bullet and even with you thinking that it isn't bad to be a ward of the state or at least have the state watch over you that you don't believe that 3% number. As I have said, I talked to people in the medical and business field and they have no clue how to run a business at that level of efficiency. Frankly, I too would like to know how to do it because I don't see how it is possible to do it that efficiently unless you are not counting something right. And lest we forget, we are talking of the govt who has not shown great skill in efficiency. Suddenly you believe they can put aside all their nonsense and partisan and vote grubbing ways to be that efficient? Well, I gotta go. I think they have a bridge to sell. Slightly used and well maintained.
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More grasping at straws. Show me some evidence that the 3% overhead figure is not true. Even the anti-Medicare websites you've shown me don't dispute that figure. You are confusing efficiency in limiting claims and hording money with efficiency in providing actual health care at a lower cost. Private insurance excels at the former, Medicare at the latter.
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Oops, flagged for removal.
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A couple of notes. Medicare also pays less than half what other companies have to pay so that would skew the equation against them. Also, Medicare doesn't have to be profitable or even break even. Run out of money? Print more. So why "waste" money with fraud detection? Does Medicare pay any taxes? If not, another equation skew. There you go again. Where is this "Taiwan" you speak of? What state is it near? WGAS what Taiwan does? Are we going to be managed by the Taiwanese govt? The Swiss next? The govt is great as a watchdog since they can make a few bucks while keeping the companies in line. But if you make the watcher the administrator, who watches the ex-watcher?
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That's what's good about Medicare. They have enough negotiating power to get a substantial discount for their policy holders. If there was a single-payer system the bargaining power would be even more. Then we would have a higher percentage of doctors who are in the industry because they like the line of work rather than just the mighty buck. Taiwan was just thrown in as another example of govt efficiency. Our own Medicare's 3% overhead is commendable enough on its own.
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It is not about the good vs the bad. It is about deceit. That I NEVER overlook. Like I sad, I didn't fire an employee for giving someone 2 $50 bills instead of 2 $5. I just told her that it would never happen again or it would come out of her paycheck at 25%, then 50% then 100%. I'd have fired her if she put $1 from the till into her pocket. But maybe you can explain to me, how much good would have to come from govt to overcome their CONSTANT depict? You do realize more and more are not accepting Medicare, right? My wife has to tell her patients that Dr X's office will not accept medicare when they want that doctor. Sure. But will they be good? Since we are talking about other countries, can you tell me why a lot of the good doctors in Singapore come here, get certification and move into private practice and leave the mediocre and inexperienced ones in govt service? Again, if we can trust the people who have lied to us in the past and used shifty accounting tactics, yes, it is commendable.
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