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kerry 10-29-2009 11:51 AM

What is #10 gear oil?
 
Got my Harbor Freight gas powered 1" impact wrench. However, the o-ring on the drain/fill plug for the gear box was damaged and the gear oil ran out during shipping. Owner's manual says fill the gear box with #10 gear oil. Never heard of it? Anyone know what it is? Googling turned up a similar question from an owner of a Chinese motor scooter. No one knew the answer but the dealer said use 5w20 oil. Any insight here?

865sp300e 10-29-2009 12:26 PM

I buy air tool oil at Sears, Home Depot, Lowes. Not sure what the specific weight it is.

Eskimo 10-29-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 865sp300e (Post 2327333)
I buy air tool oil at Sears, Home Depot, Lowes. Not sure what the specific weight it is.

This particular impact wrench isn't powered by compressed air, but by a gasoline engine. He's asking about oil for the gearbox.

mgburg 10-29-2009 12:32 PM

I'm suspecting that they are referring to SAE10, non-detergent motor oil.

The Farm & Tractor stores usually have that available in quart containers...

The stuff I find hard to locate is the SAE20, ND motor oil...that's the stuff to use on fan motor bearings (box fans, air circulators, etc...) and such...

WVOtoGO 10-29-2009 01:45 PM

mgburg is suspecting right with the 10w motor oil.

The dealer is about right with the 5w20 motor oil as well. 5w would be fine.
They have right around the same viscosity properties as a 75W gear lube.
I’d go with an SAE 75w gear oil over the 10w and 5w20 motor oils though.

The #10 is actually an ISO grade system number. They run 10 to 680. Often kinematic viscosity, not Saybolt. #10 is pretty thin for a gear lube. Lowest on the ISO chart. I’d say it should actually be about a 15 to 35 for your tool if you’re going to use it a lot.

It’s viscosity is based on Centipoise (CPS) or Millipascal (mPas) which converts to around 60 on the Saybolt Universal (SSU/sus) more often used with SAE numbers. No need to geek out about that stuff though. You’re at the bottom of their (SAE) lube chart as well.

SAE60w (non detergent) might be tricky to find, but SAE75W isn’t. SAE75 is about a #30 ISO number. Should work just fine. The bottom line is: You’re at the bottom of the charts for both ISO and SAE. And, 75w gear lube holds its properties up to 210deg.F as the Saybolt viscosity charts call out. I don’t see it getting that hot though. :rolleyes:

Mistress 10-29-2009 01:47 PM

you can only use it on the #10 gear.

865sp300e 10-29-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eskimo (Post 2327336)
This particular impact wrench isn't powered by compressed air, but by a gasoline engine. He's asking about oil for the gearbox.

woops, need to find my reading glasses. Thanks

kerry 10-29-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 2327392)
mgburg is suspecting right with the 10w motor oil.

The dealer is about right with the 5w20 motor oil as well. 5w would be fine.
They have right around the same viscosity properties as a 75W gear lube.
I’d go with an SAE 75w gear oil over the 10w and 5w20 motor oils though.

The #10 is actually an ISO grade system number. They run 10 to 680. Often kinematic viscosity, not Saybolt. #10 is pretty thin for a gear lube. Lowest on the ISO chart. I’d say it should actually be about a 15 to 35 for your tool if you’re going to use it a lot.

It’s viscosity is based on Centipoise (CPS) or Millipascal (mPas) which converts to around 60 on the Saybolt Universal (SSU/sus) more often used with SAE numbers. No need to geek out about that stuff though. You’re at the bottom of their (SAE) lube chart as well.

SAE60w (non detergent) might be tricky to find, but SAE75W isn’t. SAE75 is about a #30 ISO number. Should work just fine. The bottom line is: You’re at the bottom of the charts for both ISO and SAE. And, 75w gear lube holds its properties up to 210deg.F as the Saybolt viscosity charts call out. I don’t see it getting that hot though. :rolleyes:

Thanks for that explanation. Those Chinese manual writers were expecting too much of me. I'll look for some 75W gear lube. Does it smell as bad as the 90W? If so, I might consider motor oil because I can't stand the smell of gear oil.

Skippy 10-29-2009 03:06 PM

I hear you on the smell. If you think it's bad fresh, try it mixed with seawater and driven around for a while. (Somebody had a habit of backing down the ramp a little too far when putting a boat in the water.)


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