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Old 11-16-2009, 10:49 AM
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For all who voted for "Hope and Change"

RECENT VIRGINIA CHURCH

SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON


Genesis 47:13-27

I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in

Virginia a hug and a high five. This guy is obviously a leader.

Perhaps we should each decide who our

real leader is...It is amazing to see that very little has changed in 4,000 years.


Good morning, brothers and sisters; it's always a delight to see the pews crowded on Sunday morning, and so eager to get into

God's Word. Turn with me in your Bibles, if you will to the 47th chapter of Genesis, we'll begin our reading at verse 13, and go

through verse 27.

Brother Ray, would you stand and read that great passage for us?

....(reading) ...

Thank you for that fine reading, Brother Ray... So we see that economic hard times fell upon Egypt, and the people turned to the government of Pharaoh to deal with this for them. And Pharaoh nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses

that he had built. So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a great tax increase, and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain. And

this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.

So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their livestock -their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey - to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through the end of that year..

But the famine wasn't over, was it? So the next year, the people came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left, except

their land and their own lives. "There is nothing left in the sight of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food,

and we with our land will be servants to Pharoah."



So they surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to Pharaoh's government, and then sold themselves into slavery to him, in return for grain. What can we learn from this, brother and sisters?


That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider in hard times only leads to slavery? Yes. That the only reason

government wants to be our provider is to also become our master? Yes.

But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters! Thus Israel settled in the land of Egypt , in the land of Goshen .. And they gained possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied greatly." God provided for His people, just as He always has! They didn't end up

giving all their possessions to government, no, it says they gained possessions! But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous

one. We see the same thing happening today - the government today wants to "share the wealth "once again, to take it from us and redistribute

it back to us. It wants to take control of healthcare, just as it has taken control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and what kind. And if we go along with it, and do it willingly, then we will wind up no differently than the people of Egypt did four thousand years ago - as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

What Mr. Obama's government is doing now is no different from what Pharaoh's government did then, and it will end the same. And a lot of

people like to call Mr. Obama a "Messiah," don't they? Is he a Messiah? A savior? Didn't the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves, "You have saved our lives; may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh"?

Well, I tell you this - I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine;

and Mr. Obama is no Messiah! No, brothers and sisters, if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.

Bow with me in prayer, if you will.

Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone.

We confess that the government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be.

We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel warned the people of what a ruler would do, where it says "And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.." And Lord, we acknowledge that day has come. We cry out to you because of the ruler that we have chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray for revival, and we pray for deliverance from those who would be our masters.

Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect Your people

from the atrocities of Pharaoh's government.

In God We Trust...

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We have another thread with many posts about BHO and how people view him. Pharaoh is new one to me, but it does fit, and obviously I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:40 PM
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Pharaoh is new one to me, but it does fit, and obviously I'm not the only one who thinks so.
You and the handful of idiots can preach whatever you want. He's just a popular President, nothing more or less than just that.
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You and the handful of idiots can preach whatever you want. He's just a popular President, nothing more or less than just that.
An unreasonably popular one, but you're right, nothing more than that. It'll be interesting to see if his PC multiracial chic can maintain his popularity when it all goes to crap in the future.

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You and the handful of idiots can preach whatever you want. He's just a popular President, nothing more or less than just that.
Dude get a grip. Gandhi was popular, and so were the Beatles. If I said that they had star power like BHO would you go off the handle like you just did and say one was just a rock band and the other just a peasant leader? Now even his supporters are downplaying his star power as a detractor. Even got you turned upside down. Why do you say "just a handful"? It's obvious that many many people think this way. I certainly have no connection with a black church in the deep south.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:45 PM
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You don't like the long-legged mack daddy? neither does this dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbZaioIKKM
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:05 PM
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You and the handful of idiots can preach whatever you want. He's just a popular President, nothing more or less than just that.
we'll see what happens at the end of 4 years. He came into one heck of a mess and time will tell.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:06 PM
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like obama or not, everybody knows voting is just choosing the lesser of two evils.

everyone can post creative examples of why they don't like obama, but no one can post a decent advertisement of a better candidate (left or right) for our country.

we get it, you don't like obama, i don't particularly like a lot of what he is doing either, but i have more than enough sense to vote for some ancient old man, fundamentals of the economy are strong, bomb iran crackpot and his dingbat, psycho-religious, bumbling, illiterate, nuke russia running mate.

what i'm saying is, staunch conservatives, we know you don't like obama, but it's your fault for not reigning in bush & cheney and for putting forth candidates and representatives that are WAY out of touch with moderates and independents.

now please, reap what you've sown quietly, and think of some decent counter arguments and platforms instead of whinning about socialism, muslims, birth certificates, and tea parties. sheesh.
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Another obviously fake email from the land of fake emails, internet hoaxes, internet rumors and unending conspiracy theories, aka America's right wing nut jobs. Notice, no link. Also notice, political advocacy of this type is illegal for any church which is also claiming a religious exemption from taxes. The odds that some church would risk it's exemptions for this tripe are pretty slim. And the odds any black preacher in this country would be preaching against national health insurance to a predominantly black audicence, the largest group of uninsured next to illegal aliens, is hogwash. Perhaps the person who posted it can tell us his source for this smear job. What a load of unadultered false, misleading crap.
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Another obviously fake email from the land of fake emails, internet hoaxes, internet rumors and unending conspiracy theories, aka America's right wing nut jobs. Notice, no link. Also notice, political advocacy of this type is illegal for any church which is also claiming a religious exemption from taxes. The odds that some church would risk it's exemptions for this tripe are pretty slim. And the odds any black preacher in this country would be preaching against national health insurance to a predominantly black audicence, the largest group of uninsured next to illegal aliens, is hogwash. Perhaps the person who posted it can tell us his source for this smear job. What a load of unadultered false, misleading crap.
Wow you really pile it on with nothing whatsoever to back yourself up. None of us have ever heard of any black that is not a BHO devotee now have we? And no church has ever talked about or advocated a political stance- right? I guess the polls that show if a vote were held today more people would vote for the right than the left are just a figment of imagination...

Why don't you ask Factcheck- we know they are not biased.

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Old 11-16-2009, 05:28 PM
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everyone can post creative examples of why they don't like obama, but no one can post a decent advertisement of a better candidate (left or right) for our country.
Obama is the right man at the right time.

McCain would have been the right man in 2001, too bad we got GWB.

Sarah Palin is the joke that just keeps on giving.
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Wow you really pile it on with nothing whatsoever to back yourself up.:
You're the one who opened the thread and didn't provide the source. Care to divulge it's origin?

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None of us have ever heard of any black that is not a BHO devotee now have we?
Sure we have, the 1 out of 10 who didn't vote for him.

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And no church has ever talked about or advocated a political stance- right?
Churches are much better at advocating fictional characters. Mixing religion with politics is never a good idea.

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I guess the polls that show if a vote were held today more people would vote for the right than the left are just a figment of imagination...
The elections are a year away, polls are notoriously inaccurate that far in advance.

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Why don't you ask Factcheck- we know they are not biased. :rolleyes
You have evidence to support your sarcasm that they're biased? Perhaps you can provide examples where they have been incorrect in their fact findings.

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