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GermanStar 12-19-2009 11:03 PM

Who has Salukis?
 
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Anybody? :D

He's just a pup, and wearing an awful lot of puppy fuzz.

davidmash 12-20-2009 12:05 AM

I don't have one but he is a handsome little guy.

snookwhaler 12-20-2009 09:49 AM

Thats a puppy?:eek:

How big do they get?

GermanStar 12-20-2009 11:39 AM

He's nine months, so nearly full-grown. I'm hoping he'll grow about one more inch.

The Swede 12-20-2009 01:12 PM

Very cool.

Mr. Frank X. Morris has Salukis, correct?

GermanStar 12-20-2009 02:17 PM

That's what they say.

The Clk Man 12-20-2009 02:39 PM

Nice looking pup there, his body looks like a Greyhound. I wonder if there is any Greyhound in his lineage.

suginami 12-20-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Swede (Post 2364759)
Very cool.

Mr. Frank X. Morris has Salukis, correct?

I think he has a bunch of them, and he has posted about them many times before.

cmac2012 12-20-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2364786)
Nice looking pup there, his body looks like a Greyhound. I wonder if there is any Greyhound in his lineage.

They and Borzois must certainly have some similar bloodlines. The body shape is very similar.

I wanted a Saluki as a kid but my dad wasn't into dogs as much as I was.

GermanStar 12-20-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 2364836)
They and Borzois must certainly have some similar bloodlines. The body shape is very similar.

I wanted a Saluki as a kid but my dad wasn't into dogs as much as I was.

Afghan Hound, Greyhound, Saluki, and Borzoi are the four corners of the sighthound realm, along with a handful of more obscure breeds. Afghans and Salukis in particular are very closely aligned. Salukis are the smallest and most submissive of the group. Here is another shot of the pup, along with one of my Afghan.

Frank X. Morris 12-21-2009 08:34 PM

Howdy Ron,
I see you all have survived so far LOL. How has the housebreaking and general transition gone? Have you been able to measure him to see how tall he is? Measure to the shoulder at the base of the neck. Has he been out to run yet? He should be fast even at that age. Good luck with him.

Frank X. Morris 12-21-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2364786)
Nice looking pup there, his body looks like a Greyhound. I wonder if there is any Greyhound in his lineage.

Howdy Clk Man,
No Greyhound in Salukis. Debate between Afghan and Saluki people as to which breed is older everything else falls in line after them.

GermanStar 12-21-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris (Post 2365653)
Howdy Ron,
I see you all have survived so far LOL. How has the housebreaking and general transition gone? Have you been able to measure him to see how tall he is? Measure to the shoulder at the base of the neck. Has he been out to run yet? He should be fast even at that age. Good luck with him.

Hey Frank -- Housebroken finally. He's 26", my old Afghan is 29". At nine months, I'm hoping he may get just a bit taller -- we'll see. I let him off lead out on a desert trail Saturday and he returned promptly when called on each occasion after getting about an eighth of mile out ahead. I would have never tried that at such a young age with any of my Afghans, but he has such a high fear factor, I was convinced he wouldn't stray too far.

He was running with a smallish (27-28") 2 y/o greyhound just yesterday stride for stride in our local 2 acre dog park -- it was a dead heat, though the greyhound outlasted him. Heck, he's just a pup, I was pretty impressed.

When should I expect his puppy coat to hit the road? Any idea?

DieselGuy53 12-21-2009 10:51 PM

I thought it was typo - Salaki's (pardon my ignorance)

Frank X. Morris 12-21-2009 10:52 PM

Howdy Ron,
Crap shoot on the coat. One of my males really didn't have a puppy coat. My youngest male still has some fuzz on the outside of his rear legs and he is 4 y/o. 18 months he should be rid of everything except he could have a little on the legs. You could ask Jeff when dogs in his line loose it. Is your pup still intact?
When he gets more adventuresome is when they really start getting away from you. If you want, go to my webpage in my sig. and check out Jazz. Those tri colored dogs all look the same LOL. Jazz is 27+ inches, I prefer my dogs to be about 25" and the females I like about 23-24". But that's me. Most people like their males to be 26-27". Think you might enter him in some running events?

tds 12-21-2009 11:41 PM

sighthounds
 
I have another member of the sighthound group. I have RR's. Or African hounds. They l o v e to run and chase critters.

GermanStar 12-22-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris (Post 2365753)
Howdy Ron,
Crap shoot on the coat. One of my males really didn't have a puppy coat. My youngest male still has some fuzz on the outside of his rear legs and he is 4 y/o. 18 months he should be rid of everything except he could have a little on the legs. You could ask Jeff when dogs in his line loose it. Is your pup still intact?
When he gets more adventuresome is when they really start getting away from you. If you want, go to my webpage in my sig. and check out Jazz. Those tri colored dogs all look the same LOL. Jazz is 27+ inches, I prefer my dogs to be about 25" and the females I like about 23-24". But that's me. Most people like their males to be 26-27". Think you might enter him in some running events?

Frank, I don't think the Lipps really know, because they remove their coats for show events. My pup's litter mates have all had their puppy coats removed manually. I saw the pups on your page, and noticed the strong resemblance to Jazz. You have some fine looking animals there!

No, I won't be neutering him, unless some unexpected behavioral anomaly suggests it in the future. My male Afghan has also never been neutered. I like the feathering, but the thick, long hair on his chest and upper legs lend a different look that isn't really very Saluki-like, if you know I mean.

So you want your dogs fast rather than statuesque, I understand. Same with Afghans, it's the smaller members of the breed that run like hell. I'm also guessing that smaller Salukis fare better in coursing events.

Frank X. Morris 12-22-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tds (Post 2365782)
I have another member of the sighthound group. I have RR's. Or African hounds. They l o v e to run and chase critters.

Howdy tds,
A sizeable influx of RR people to lure coursing. They do love to chase the plastic. And good exersize. They aren't the breed of choice to go course jackrabbits but could be used as flushers. A good game for them to course would be coyotes. Sure could use one to keep my guys safe when they run into a yote.

Frank X. Morris 12-22-2009 07:02 PM

Howdy Ron,
A fixed Saluki becomes an Afghan LOL My 2 older dogs are fixed and we keep tem trimmed. I don't know how long the coat would get if we didn't
A disertation on coursing hounds can fill a book...or 2...or 3 etc. For lure coursing the smaller Salukis can handle the turns of te course better than bigger ones. But you don't always get a tight course with a lot of turns, so a bigger dog can do well in it. Now on live game like jackrabbits (open field coursing) the conditions vary soooo much that it may come down to the size dog you like. The most sucsessful breeds coursing jacks are Whippets, Salukis, and Greyhounds. You look at the size differance and you can talk all you want about what size is best and not convince anyone. So it just comes down to what size you want. I like mine on the small side but I have had them from 24" up to almost 29". So much fun to talk Saluki :-)

GermanStar 12-23-2009 03:03 PM

Hey Frank --

So I've heard -- three distinct Saluki looks -- smooth, feathered, and neutered. Heck, if I wanted to deal with the hair, I'd have likely picked up another Afghan. It's off to the groomer with him next week. I'm going to have all of the fuzz removed with a clipper, then wait and see how much grows back. It should make his forelegs appear a lot longer. I was told to pick up a stripping knife to keep it under control for now, though I've never used one, and have no idea how difficult or tedious that might be.

GermanStar 12-23-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris (Post 2366335)
Howdy tds,
A sizeable influx of RR people to lure coursing. They do love to chase the plastic. And good exersize. They aren't the breed of choice to go course jackrabbits but could be used as flushers. A good game for them to course would be coyotes. Sure could use one to keep my guys safe when they run into a yote.

Just get a big male Afghan, Frank -- coyotes won't go near 'em, and your Salukis will likely consider him one of the family. Mine has charged into packs of 5 and 6 (they're everywhere here), and they can't scatter fast enough.

Frank X. Morris 12-23-2009 09:59 PM

Howdy Ron,
If all you have to deal with is the puppy fuzz, then it shouldn't be much of a task at all. Normally I just pull the puppy fuzz off the dog, usually it comes out fairly easily. Yes, he should look slimmer, trimmer and long legged :-)

truckinik 12-23-2009 10:19 PM

My parental units have seven Italian Greyhounds. It's my belief, based on pure experience, that the Italian Greyhound is for sure the dumbest of all of the breeds. My Dacshund, is a lot smarter than my parents dogs, but I know there are smarter breeds than Doxie's too. I also know that my Zebra, is worlds smarter than any of the horses, or Mules, or Donkeys I've ever owned. She'll outsmart them any day of the week.....Come to think of it, she's out smarted me a time or three...Anyone else here, ever been outsmarted by a Zebra?

Frank X. Morris 12-23-2009 10:33 PM

Howdy Trukinik,
Can't say I have ever had the opportunity to be outsmarted by a Zebra. I have been outsmarted by a Saluki, so that tells you how bright I am LOL

truckinik 12-23-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris (Post 2367150)
Howdy Trukinik,
Can't say I have ever had the opportunity to be outsmarted by a Zebra. I have been outsmarted by a Saluki, so that tells you how bright I am LOL

Well, a Saluki, is probably smarter than a Grant's Zebra anyways. I never went hunting, but I've heard rumors about hunters, actually being outsmarted by wild Turkey before. This to a point where the tables turn, and the Turkey, though nearly harmless, end up running the hunters out of the area completely.

GermanStar 12-31-2009 04:23 PM

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Pup pics!

Frank X. Morris 12-31-2009 05:38 PM

Howdy Ron,
Looks like his legs are a couple inches longer <G> Got him trimmed!? He looks like one fast pup. When his chest fills out he will add some endurance to that equation.

GermanStar 12-31-2009 05:49 PM

Ha! Yeah, he got himself buzzed today. We'll see what grows back. And I know what you mean about endurance, he was staying out in front of a 2 y/o female greyhound a short while back -- until he ran out of gas.

davestlouis 01-02-2010 07:02 AM

Southern Illinois Carbondale's sports teams are The Salukis...didn't even know what a saluki was until I moved to St Louis 25 years ago. I for one have a Boston Terrier who doesn't run unless he absolutely has to, then he won't go far because he's a bit of a lump.

Frank X. Morris 01-02-2010 12:06 PM

Howdy Dave,
Since you have known about Salukis for 25 years, you are well ahead of the peple who still don't know what they are lol. Yeah, SIU had a good football team this year. Hope the basketball team can push through to the next level. Those Boston Terriers aren't real hard to catch. You have options. You can walk along and pick them up or you can wait for them to get tired in about 20 feet then go pick them up ;-)

davestlouis 01-02-2010 05:39 PM

Frank, you're right on the mark...my little guy even has a touch of asthma and wheezes sometimes...and snores like a freight train. He loves barking at squirrels and birds but would no more chase one than learn to drive a car. He's kinda lazy like me...

GermanStar 01-02-2010 09:24 PM

My older brother attended Southern Illinois University, so I guess this is my second Saluki. I named my pup Tracy, that after a good friend of my now deceased brother, who also attended SIU.

Frank X. Morris 01-02-2010 11:28 PM

Howdy Ron,
Here is an FYI for you. There are going to be some Saluki shows over the Presidents day weekend Feb 13, 14, 15. in Mesa.

GermanStar 01-16-2010 11:44 PM

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Hey Frank --

My little boy is now 10 months old, 27" and 57 lb.

Frank X. Morris 01-16-2010 11:54 PM

Howdy Ron,
Good looking big boy. Should be done growing now. Just has to fill out. Your next pic can you get a side shot of him just standing? How is the puppy fur doing? How is he running these days?

GermanStar 01-17-2010 12:08 AM

I have this shot from about 2 weeks ago.

http://www.peachparts.com//shopforum...9&d=1262294572

I shaved him just before taking that pic. His fur is starting to come back on his outer legs (rears especially), and on top of his head a little bit, though it's laying flat and looks fine. It is not coming back at all on his chest or inner legs as yet.

The only place he runs is in the house and yard. He's too scared to run at the dog park, and I won't let him off lead out in the desert until he's good and tired from hiking a few miles. I wish there was someplace he could just let it rip, but the desert terrain here is pretty rough on tender puppy feet.

I'm wondering, at 57 lbs, is he a tad heavy? Think I should cut his food back a bit?

Frank X. Morris 01-17-2010 01:17 AM

Howdy Ron,
Should be able to see some ribs and the rear hip bones should be easily seen. If that is the case then you should be ok between 55 and 60 lbs. He will fill out a little more and be at the high end. As far as being scared. That might be the way he will be. Since you got him at a later age he probably just had interaction with his siblings and parents and didn't get much socialization with strange dogs. You might be able to help him get some confidence by just taking him out to meet other dogs. But I'm not sure it will help. Also he might be comfortable with certian dogs and not others. I had a rescue dog that was afraid of every dog that got close until I got him into lure coursing. He was one of the best. He was still a little shy standing still on a leash but had no problems when getting ready to run :-) Catch you later.

suginami 01-17-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by davestlouis (Post 2373101)
Frank, you're right on the mark...my little guy even has a touch of asthma and wheezes sometimes...and snores like a freight train. He loves barking at squirrels and birds but would no more chase one than learn to drive a car. He's kinda lazy like me...

As an interesting aside....I took my dog to the vet for what I thought was asthma.

Turns out dogs don't get asthma. Cat's do, but not dogs.

Frank X. Morris 01-19-2010 11:04 PM

Howdy Paul,
Interesting. I didn't know that. I posted the ? in another group. One person read up on asthma and said that dogs may not get it and the symptoms sound like indicators of heart problems. What was the diagnoses on your dog? Do you still have the one you ran with?

suginami 01-20-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank X. Morris (Post 2386498)
Howdy Paul,
Interesting. I didn't know that. I posted the ? in another group. One person read up on asthma and said that dogs may not get it and the symptoms sound like indicators of heart problems. What was the diagnoses on your dog? Do you still have the one you ran with?

Yes, this is the same dog that I used to run 3 miles / day with - Peewee, the weenie dog.

Turns out she has allergies, so she's better now on the meds, but not 100%.

She's 13 years old now, and in semi-retirement. She still thinks she's a retriever, so I take her to the park everyday to play fetch, which is her life's work, but we don't go running anymore. She's just too old and doesn't have it in her anymore.

Frank X. Morris 01-21-2010 06:20 PM

Howdy Paul,
Chime, my 11 year old doesn't go with me and the young guys into the field anymore. She will run a lap on the property and then lay on one of the beds outside to watch the world go by.


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