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Chas H 01-13-2010 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2381456)
Thanks Doc! No comment on the fact that the information contradicts the referred to statement?:
I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

Diesel4me 01-13-2010 07:47 PM
It's time to get those poor people off that island. Relocate them to our backyard (the midwest?) and bring them into American society. Helping them stay where they are is enabling. Those people might like Haiti but clearly, Haiti does not like them.

JordaanDMC-12 01-17-2010 12:46 PM
Don't we have a forum member here who lives in Port Au Prince? I remember coming across his name and saw he lived there, moved from Canada to Haiti if I recall?

Hope he and his benz made it okay! :(

strelnik 01-17-2010 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dynalow (Post 2381190)
The other side of the US Military.;)

First question: Where are our Carriers?

Answer: On the way.

Carl Vinson, other ships headed to Haiti


More than 4,000 sailors from the Nassau Amphibious Ready Group and 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit are scheduled to deploy Monday from Norfolk and Camp Lejeune, N.C., as part of a regularly scheduled deployment in the 5th and 6th Fleet areas of operation. There is no word on whether those ships will depart early or be used to support humanitarian requests.

The ARG includes the amphibious assault ship Nassau, the amphibious transport dock Mesa Verde and the dock landing ship Ashland. The 24th MEU is comprised of 1st Battalion, 9th Marines; Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 162 (Reinforced); Combat Logistics Battalion 24 and Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 28
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/01/navy_vinson_haiti_update_011310w/
Plus SOCOM and the PR National Guard are already on the scene, so is the USAF. The problem is: when they get there, where do you find a place to land your aircraft, stock stuff-keep looters away, set up your hospitals? You gotta clear out rubble first

An article said the people were upset that the aid was not quickly forthcoming. Is this anger over lack of things they are entitled to? All aid is charity with no expectation of entitlement.

cmac2012 01-17-2010 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jdh122 (Post 2381168)
After reading some of the casualty reports coming out of Haiti today, I regret having posted anything that even remotely suggests any sort of humorous or lighthearted aspect to this tragedy.

I suggest that we limit our comments to expressions of sympathy or, better yet, ideas of how members can help those affected.

Here is one idea: Children's Hunger Relief Fund
I was moved by Bush and Clinton speaking on the matter last night on the tube. Bush gets a chance for a do-over on Katrina. Clinton has got the real stuff. Dude has some flakiness around the edges but he can pull it off.

This will be some kinda real time drama. What were the stories being beat to death by cable news just before this happened? I forget . . .

cmac2012 01-17-2010 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by strelnik (Post 2384406)
Plus SOCOM and the PR National Guard are already on the scene, so is the USAF. The problem is: when they get there, where do you find a place to land your aircraft, stock stuff-keep looters away, set up your hospitals? You gotta clear out rubble first

An article said the people were upset that the aid was not quickly forthcoming. Is this anger over lack of things they are entitled to? All aid is charity with no expectation of entitlement.
Well put. People could easily get hurt trying to pass out water.

I've been a little put off by the entitlement stuff. One can hope for compassion but one cannot demand it, or well, one can but it makes it less likely you'll get it.

Most of the people and society of Haiti are low on the list of them likely to respond with aid to a natural disaster in a neighboring country. As a result, they have little ability to do it for themselves to any extent or to facilitate the receiving of outside aid. We create our own reality.

johnjzjz 01-17-2010 08:50 PM
they are conected to the dom republic and i dont see them doing anything WHY would that be -- jz

Craig 01-17-2010 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz (Post 2384678)
they are conected to the dom republic and i dont see them doing anything WHY would that be -- jz
Here is one report:

http://english.cctv.com/program/cctvnews/20100113/103653.shtml

Apparently, it was centered under the western end of the island.

aklim 01-17-2010 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 2384509)
Bush gets a chance for a do-over on Katrina.
How so? He is not in charge of walking a dog in Haiti. He was POTUS. I don't care what he does in Haiti. If Katrina was a screw up, even if he parted the seas in Haiti, it cannot make up for it.

aklim 01-17-2010 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cmac2012 (Post 2384512)
I've been a little put off by the entitlement stuff. One can hope for compassion but one cannot demand it, or well, one can but it makes it less likely you'll get it.
Except when you are dealing with fools who will rush to you because you feel entitled to something.

aklim 01-17-2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz (Post 2384678)
they are conected to the dom republic and i dont see them doing anything WHY would that be -- jz
Maybe because they are smarter than we are. When I am broke, I don't go writing checks to buy luxuries.

WVOtoGO 01-17-2010 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 2384708)
How so? He is not in charge of walking a dog in Haiti. He was POTUS. I don't care what he does in Haiti. If Katrina was a screw up, even if he parted the seas in Haiti, it cannot make up for it.
A “do over” of some sort perhaps. I hope he works miracles for the place.
But a chance for any redemption – I agree. Not a chance. Not here anyway.

With perhaps the exception of: “If” Katrina was a screw up, I’ll mark the calendar as another rare day I actually agree with you on something. :D;)

Craig 01-17-2010 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 2384738)
A “do over” of some sort perhaps. I hope he works miracles for the place.
But a chance for any redemption – I agree. Not a chance. Not here anyway.

With perhaps the exception of: “If” Katrina was a screw up, I’ll mark the calendar as another rare day I actually agree with you on something. :D;)
They both (GWB and WJC) get credit for going and trying to do something, even if it is mostly symbolic.

Chas H 01-17-2010 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 2384751)
They both (GWB and WJC) get credit for going and trying to do something, even if it is mostly symbolic.
Clinton controls a sizable charity, and this is a good first step for Dubya to do the same.

tonkovich 01-17-2010 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by strelnik (Post 2384406)
Plus SOCOM and the PR National Guard are already on the scene, so is the USAF. The problem is: when they get there, where do you find a place to land your aircraft, stock stuff-keep looters away, set up your hospitals? You gotta clear out rubble first

An article said the people were upset that the aid was not quickly forthcoming. Is this anger over lack of things they are entitled to? All aid is charity with no expectation of entitlement.
i think they are just amazingly desperate. put yourself in their shoes for a sec, and then thank fate of whatever deity you choose to believe in that you weren't born there. the children ,especially deserve better. no? they're guilty of nothing.


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