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truckinik · #16 01-20-2010, 09:40 AM

My most favorite thing about the whole situation, is the fact that the liberal lefts actually went through the trouble to get the law changed when Ted died. They did that, so they could get their democratic seat, thinking they had a "Shoe-in", now the whole thing backfired on them. I can't wait til they scrap this healthcare plan all together, and we don't need to worry about it anymore. Not to mention that it will be an everlasting bad mark on Barrack Obama-Bin Ladens record. Thats the best thing about it all. It's all quite a bit ironic. First the seat, and how the democrats have now lost the seat to the opposing party. Most of all though. Barrack Obama took the presidential election almost entirely due to his proposed health care plan. If it goes to the crapper, he won't even have a chance by the time the next election comes around. It's funny to me that the very reason for his becoming, is the very same thing, that will ultimately be his undoing.....

Chas H · #17 01-20-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

How is Minnesota a "much better" example? In what way is it much better?

It's much better because it's a recent example of partisan BS. What goes around etc.

Chas H · #18 01-20-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

"This isn't 1962, and Mass election laws have changed a few times since then."

On what specific changes have you based your analysis? What where they then and what are they now, and what is the difference? How have the specific requirements for certification of a special election winner changed?

Shouldn't Massachusetts follow Massachusetts law?

You're a Mass resident, you should be aware of the laws of your state
Since you're apparently not, here's a short explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Massachusetts,_2010

junqueyardjim · #19 01-20-2010, 11:36 AM

A total and complete smash up and they didn't even see it coming. Talk about in your face stupidity! Love it is all I can say.

aklim · #20 01-20-2010, 11:56 AM

AVP: Whoever wins, we lose.

C280 Sport · #21 01-20-2010, 01:34 PM

"Honeymoon is over for Obama"

No more health care bill

JollyRoger · #22 01-20-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

"This isn't 1962, and Mass election laws have changed a few times since then."

On what specific changes have you based your analysis? What where they then and what are they now, and what is the difference? How have the specific requirements for certification of a special election winner changed?

Shouldn't Massachusetts follow Massachusetts law?

"A much better example to follow would be the recent senate election in Minnesota."

How is Minnesota a "much better" example? In what way is it much better?

I think you miss the point, which is what you usually do anyway because following the point interferes with bombast. The Republicans made a concerted effort to delay Franken's seating in the Senate to prevent the 60-vote majority. The old saying "turn about is fair play" must be lost on you. What goes around comes around.

MTUpower · #23 01-20-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I think you miss the point, which is what you usually do anyway because following the point interferes with bombast. The Republicans made a concerted effort to delay Franken's seating in the Senate to prevent the 60-vote majority. The old saying "turn about is fair play" must be lost on you. What goes around comes around.

Oh... was there threatened court cases, recounts and allegations of voter fraud/misrepresentation in yesterday's election that we all missed? You've been pushing the pendulum higher and higher to the left and now it's already swinging back on you- and it's just gaining momentum. It's time for the left to sit down and scratch their heads and wonder why people have come to strongly dislike what has happened over the last year- perhaps they will be smart enough to figure out the pendulum's motion. I hope it's a wake up call for the right to NOT push the pendulum too high to the right.

Billybob · #24 01-20-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Enlighten us as to HOW MANY votes difference it would take in the above mentioned scenario to make it analogous then. Somewhere between 1 and 100,000 perhaps?

My personal hope would be that the republicans continue to use everything they can to desperately obstruct everything they encounter, as the G-NO-P, to bitterly divide the country with hyper-partisanship; it is precisely that attitude which turned the stomachs of so many progressives in this country. The more they act that way and the further they champion lunatics such as Sarah Palin and Hate radio screamers, the independents and progressives across the country will turn away from them, I welcome that because it works in my favor.

That is about as relevant as Larry Craig's sexual proclivities, isn't it?

The Minnesota election results certified on Nov 18, 2009, had Coleman winning, the election law in Minnesota, requires a hand recount of results within one half of one percent, after finding all the votes they could Franken was eventual certified the winner with a margin of 312 votes. The result of the Massachusetts special election has Scott Brown spanking the Obamunista Coakley by a 4.8% margin.

Virginia and New Jersey Governorships reversed from democrats to republican by wide margins and even wider reversals, Scott Brown reversing arguably the most secure democrat seat in the senate and doing so reversing the Obama +26% election margin to a Coakley -4.8% while at the same time destroying the democrat super majority in the Senate. How’s that Obamunisum working out for you lately, at least you can’t keep whining about not getting enough change, Scott Brown delivered more change for democrats than they can stand!

I don’t know much about Larry Craig but I will agree with his sentiment On Jan 19, 2010 Republican Scott Brown tasted the sweetness of victory; and across the United States of America, Obama and his sycophant rump swabs are tasting only Browns manly, salty, sweaty, sack after he TEABAGGED them one and all! The sound that is rising across the land is these pathetic losers gasping for air in the deep dark shadow of his hairy a$$! Thanks Obama!

Billybob · #25 01-20-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

You're a Mass resident, you should be aware of the laws of your state
Since you're apparently not, here's a short explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Massachusetts,_2010

As exspected you know not what your speaking of, the provisians for certification of special elections remain the same as they where in 1962 when Sweaty Teddy was seated the day after the election!

Thanks again, as usual your "analysis" doesn't disappoint!

davidmash · #26 01-20-2010, 02:26 PM

Bush/Cheney screwed over the RNC in the 2006/2008 elections and Obama does it now. You make it sound as if this is something new.

Republicans swooned over Bush like a drunk teen on prom night and they got trounced in 2006/2008.

We need to get rid of the electoral college and get a true multi party system in place. Until then, more of the same old crap.

JollyRoger · #27 01-20-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

Oh... was there threatened court cases, recounts and allegations of voter fraud/misrepresentation in yesterday's election that we all missed? You've been pushing the pendulum higher and higher to the left and now it's already swinging back on you- and it's just gaining momentum. It's time for the left to sit down and scratch their heads and wonder why people have come to strongly dislike what has happened over the last year- perhaps they will be smart enough to figure out the pendulum's motion. I hope it's a wake up call for the right to NOT push the pendulum too high to the right.

I'm sure we can find some. Tell me, how did all your trumped up BS work out? All that voter fraud and such, I bet old Franken was sorry when you proved it and kept him out of the Senate and all. I keep forgetting that you conservatives are the Truly Righteous and all.

aklim · #28 01-20-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

Republicans swooned over Bush like a drunk teen on prom night and they got trounced in 2006/2008.

We need to get rid of the electoral college and get a true multi party system in place. Until then, more of the same old crap.

Good point. He was focussed on one thing and as long as he got it, he didn't care what they did. As long as the drunk teen on prom night got her booze, you could boink her all night long, one after the other.

How will that help? A lot of your crap still comes from Congress. It would be more profitable to reform congress before we bother with who or what sits at the WH.

Billybob · #29 01-20-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I think you miss the point, which is what you usually do anyway because following the point interferes with bombast. The Republicans made a concerted effort to delay Franken's seating in the Senate to prevent the 60-vote majority. The old saying "turn about is fair play" must be lost on you. What goes around comes around.

Damn I was worried about you Arse Pirate, there where scattered reports of a 'man" fatally gagging in the metro Houston area, but I had faith that you above all could take it like the "man" you are!

The Minnesota recount was required by law; the subsequent and attendant legal challenges did no more than assure that law was properly applied. As the eventual margin of victory was 312 votes, anyone who disputes the challenges to each and every ballot in question and the methodology to do so is being disingenuous at best. That fact that after the initial tally of votes Coleman was the winner by 215 votes the republicans the recounted vote tally reversal favoring Franken by 225 votes.

Subsequent legal challenges changed that tally in favor of Franken to a 312 vote margin a gain of 87 more votes. You see delay I see adherence to the law.

On June 30, 2009, the Minnesota Supreme Court unanimously rejected Coleman's challenge and stated that Franken was entitled to be certified as the winner. Governor Pawlenty and Secretary of State Ritchie signed the election certificate on the same evening without delay.

Speaking of delaying tactics wasn't the present go round started by, who, where? Oh yeah, that perennial loser AL Gore In Florida 2000, where after losing he initiated a challenge that even today the lame stream media has to admit that after all their investigations in hopes of finding the smoking ballots Al Gore never received enough ballots to prevail over GW Bush in that contest!

MTUpower · #30 01-20-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I'm sure we can find some. Tell me, how did all your trumped up BS work out? All that voter fraud and such, I bet old Franken was sorry when you proved it and kept him out of the Senate and all. I keep forgetting that you conservatives are the Truly Righteous and all.

Not sure what you are referring to. What did I do that you are calling bull****? Lest you forget I am NOT a republican, it does seem you think I am. If this is not so then you are a clearly a troll, and to me you are a troll with this post anyway. I personally had nothing to do with what went on in MN in any way, shape or form, and have posted nothing to the say that I did. MN was a contested election, MA was not.