American Pirate Party, the beginning of a new American political party.
 

Sick of the Demopublician party ?

Try the Pirate Party.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/arzh7/america_we_need_a_third_party_that_can_galvanize/

http://i.imgur.com/Rzucu.jpg

That's a pretty good post, the comments are probably better than the original article. It's nice to see that some 20-somethings are appropriately cynical about american politics. Of course, by the time the geezers are gone and these folks have a chance to actually do anything, 99 percent of them will have completely lost interest (just like previous generations), leaving politics in the hands of the idiots and criminals of that generation (some things never change).

You can tell who is in charge of DC by the amount of clothes people wear. There are the suit and tie crowd, and the shorts and t-shirt crowd. The shorts and t-shirt crowd wears less clothes, so you call them les-ons. The people in DC wear more clothes, and so they are called mor-ons.


I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

Sounds good to me! I'm willing to get behind just about any 3rd party at this point just as long as they are not communist.:D

It's a neat idea but it'll never be anything more than an internet fad.

At the time of the last election I looked at the alternative parties as I was so disgusted with the current two. But couldn't find any that were not really just various forms of communist agit prop. Unless you count liberterians who unfortunately just don't seem to be able to get a handle on the realities of the real world outside the US.

Never been one for ostriches myself.

- Peter.

I've already joined

What's their platform? eyepatches, walking the gangplank for misdemeanors, keelhauling for capital crimes and free grog for all?

Let's not forget pieces of eight for tax refunds.

To what end? More choice? What is the good of more choice when it is going to be the same? Do you want KFC from 3rd street or KFC from 6th street or for a change KFC from 10th street.

As long as the people don't stop voting people in by them bidding for the votes, you can have 100 parties and nothing will change.

Direct taxation. Quite heavy, actually.

As opposed to the many lighter taxations today? Not a bad thing if they put it all together so we know what it is. OTOH, if you tax a bit here, a bit there, and a bit there, you might not even know what you pay in taxes at the end of the year. I'll bet most don't.

:D Good one!

Is that meant to encourage, or discouare other from joining?:)

We advocate the use of swords as collection devices to insure the maximum payment is received. In return, you get your daughter back.

Pirate Party membership requires one be person who has a hard time fitting in socially.

I love what you said! But their platform makes a lot more sense then you can imagine. They're becoming a driving force in Europe because of the insane copyright system. People accused of (meaning no proof is needed) infringement have the 3 strikes rule which can eliminate their internet access.

There platform tends to be the same but here it is in a nutshell:

1. Improving and toughening privacy laws and limiting the state's police powers.
2. Reinstating constitutional laws such as freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, etc and actually punishing those who infringe on them.
3. Eliminating software patents and dead patents by requiring that a tangible product be made to maintain a patent.
4. Lowering the 100+ year copyright to the pre 1970 limits making copyright reasonable while allowing works to fall into the public domain.
5. Ending the unsuccessful wars on drugs/terrorism/poverty while consolidating the HUGE police and intelligent agencies. No more DEA, DHS, ATF, and misc alphabet soup agencies.
6. Limits and real punishments on corporations that hurt people by breaking the law (taking stock and other investment earnings as fines).

Basically they want to curb the huge corporate government that has come about in recent years. I personally am a democrat, but my party's wheeny attitude towards everything is just sad. They had it all and yet let it slip and now with the Massachusetts election come and gone I just have given up.

The point of these type of "underground" parties is not to win any elections, but to try to raise whatever issues they think are important. They are just political activists using the net to get some grassroots support for there issues. If you bother to go vote at all, voting for these types of parties is intended to send a message that you can't bring yourself to vote for any of the major party canidates. I doubt anyone in power will bother to listen to that message.

Has trouble fitting in----as in socially awkward?
or as socially inept.

Most teenagers might qualify.

I think the hope of many is that it sends a message. Much like the supposed message that was sent when voters voted Republican in MA. Well, unless it can come in sufficient numbers, the message falls on deaf ears.

But as I said to Hattie, what is the point of choice if it is choosing between 3 different KFC shops in the area? The difference will be slight.

I agree, 30 years ago I would have been tempted to vote for some third parties because I thought the american political system was completely broken, but fixable. Now I know that it's completely broken and not fixable; but it can still be fun to watch (from a distance).

Personaly I really like the Constitution Party. They really like that piece of paper, more so than a lot of SOB's in power today. They also respect the Bill of Rights far more than Bush ever did.

There is a HUGE difference between what you say and what you will do. Sometimes, the bigger difference lies in what you will do AFTER you get into power.

Most pirates lack social grace.

I don't see how a bunch of pro-lifers can call themselves the "Constitution Party". It says clearly in Amendment 14 that rights under the Constitution are reserved for the naturally born or naturalized citizens. Pre-born individuals simply do not have any rights under the COTUS, which is why they always lose in court. Along with their desire to end Social Security and a bunch of other far-rightwing stuff, their interpretation of the COTUS is some pretty kooky stuff if you ask me.

Well its all we got. At this point I'll throw my support behind any 3rd party thats not communist or nazi in nature, just to bump one of the others out.

It should be important to note that the Pirate Party got a seat in the EU's Parliamentary election. In my opinion that's pretty significant for something of the EU's size.

I'm all for any party that makes the policing powers of the government smaller.

Internet neutrality and progressive legislation regarding technology. (1)
Legalization and taxation of drugs, prostitution, and all other activities we currently classify as "consensual crime." <-----Quite possibly the most asinine term of all time. (2)
Fiscal conservatism, social liberalism. (3)
An end to corporate personhood. (4)
A Public Option health care system. (5)
Reducing the power of filibuster by restoring it to its original place in Senate procedure, requiring simple majorities to pass laws. (6)
Eschew professional politicians in favor of politically knowledgeable citizens interested in political positions. (7)
Campaign finance reform that prohibits corporations from giving money to a political candidate in any form. Only contributions from private citizens. (8)

Well, after today's utterly fascist Supreme Court decision deciding that corporations enjoy the same rights as a real person, you can forget about it. Corporations love the two-party system, it makes the game of playing one off against the other easy, and presents a nice sham front of "democracy" as they pay everybody off. The two parties will simply become representatives of one group of corporate interests against another, using massive cash and media resources to govern this country by market technique. There will be no room for other parties in the new Corporatist State. Mussolini would be proud.

Benito, your dream has been realized.

This fascist decision? http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/21/campaign.finance.ruling/index.html

IOW, I only respect the SC if they decide the way I see fit. So what you want is a rubber stamp of s SC for yourself. Sorry, IIRC, you seem to have respect for the SC when they decided Roe v Wade the way you like. Guess, like people here, you can't take the good with the bad.

How can that be? After all, the Rep party are the only scumbags and the Dems are pure as the driven snow and cannot succumb such vulgarity as to be bought off, can they? Note, in that article, it also says that the unions are involved. Hmmmmm. Which group would they buy off?

Sorry, even if you have a 5 party system, nothing will change as long as a human being is at the helm.

^ All rise and salute the Corporate State!

As opposed to you who salutes the SC decision only if it goes your way and if it doesn't, they are morons?

ARRRRGH, where are me saucy wenches??:D

Just read that, WTF talk about BS.:mad:

This country really is full of ignorant lemmings.

We have ofically turned ourselves into cattle to be consumed by corporations.


He who pays the piper picks the tune.

Good Bye democracy.

Hello Facism.

Ready to renounce your citizenship yet? Free ONE WAY ticket when you do.

Pitchman: And if you renounce today, not only will we give you the ticket ON AUTHENTICATION, we will even throw in a free set of Ginsu knives.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

We? You and who else that you associate with of your "we"? Did you chose to be turned "into cattle"?

With our two party system, there is no such thing as a choice. The choice is to help keep the majority quiet.

The businesses can just pay each of the party's leaders and we're done.

We are slowly becoming a fascist state. The definition of a facist state is:

Wikipedia:
Fascism is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism[1][2][3][4] with a corporatist economic system,[5] and which is usually considered to be on the far right of the traditional left-right political spectrum

Yes I know wikipedia is about as accurate as my 1/8th of a mile error tripometer, but for a general idea you can get the picture.

I'm a social liberal, but big business' interests have their hands in both parties.

It's scary watching this all unfold.

Cabin boys, you mean. I hear some of their....members....are Log Cabin republicans.

I am partly to blame.

I still buy things from walmart, exxon, etc...

Knowing that voting in this country is done more at the cash register than in a voting booth.