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Republic vs. Democracy
REPUBLIC vs. DEMOCRACY
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Great discussion.
Too bad its a distinction that is lost on ( my estimate) 2/3 to 3/4 of the American public.
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I agree with you 100%
Look at some of the 'democracies' we have had in the past 100 years - the USSR, Fascist Italy, NAZI Germany, etc. Look at the democracy that followed the French Revolution. Heck, look at the UK and the Canadians. They are both ruled by a simple majority system that leaves many people disenfranchised. For example ask any person from Northern England what they think about being ruled by the MPs from London and Middlesex or a Canadian from Vancouver how he feels about being run by MPs from Ontario to get my drift. Take a look at how Chavez is able to subvert his democracy to suit his needs. The founding fathers were very careful to frame our government so as to not allow a majority to overwhelm the minority. In this respect the USA is pretty unique in the world.
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wonderfully put.........
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It is already made aware to every person that takes high school civics (a required class to graduate in most places). I remember my teacher making the distinction for me while I was in high school.
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That is not the case any longer. Now there is no civics class in most schools...
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Here is an excerpt from the Minnesota Department of Education's Social Studies GRADUATION STANDARDS. By law, every high school in MN has to follow these standards and teach them. 3. Students will define....democracy, republic, and representative democracy. So, every student that graduates from high school has to define what a republic and democracy are. Obviously not everyone remembers it because some don't care as much about it as you do. Just like one might not remember too much what their French teacher taught them.
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that's too bad, because that is certainly more important than trying to order a meal in French...which is the most most people will do with French... |
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The NAZIs were even voted into office more than once in the early 1930's. What I am trying to say is that without the checks and balances of our Constitution, things can get out of hand real fast...
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The Nazis were elected as part of a Representative Republic, it was called the Weimer Republic, not the Weimer Democracy, was it not, and weren't Nazis elected to the Reichstag to make laws, which is the heart of Republicanism? And didn't these Representatives then pass the Enabling Act ? Do you even know what the Enabling Act is? Seems like your reasoning actually leads one to see that Republicanism led to Hitler, does it not?
And perhaps you can explain to us all exactly what a "soviet" is? Your entire line of reasoning is ridiculous, all of these governmental systems were electing people to representative bodies. Pure democracy is where people vote directly on issues, not on representatives, get your facts straight before you post such drivel, it's pretty obvious you don't even understand what a pure democracy is. Actual "democratic" governments have been few and far between. Ancient Greece comes to mind. I can really think of no other. They lasted for a few centuries and their achievements are legend, not exactly a failure. Last edited by JollyRoger; 01-25-2010 at 12:03 PM. |
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The tenets of Nazism revolve around the "Führer Principle", Mein Kampf directly states that both Republicanism and Democracy are to be destroyed. The Nazi system revolves around a State subservient to a Party, as do all totalitarian systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Führerprinzip The idea that democracy is a feature of Nazism is utterly laughable. From the Wiki: Quote:
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Yes, like a good little Republic, the people voted in Representatives. These representatives just happened to be Nazis. After the Reichstag fire, which was Germany's 9-11, these nice little representives, in their Republican way, voted to give all their power to the Fuhrer. So much for the Weimer Republic.
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