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Hatterasguy · #1 02-01-2010, 04:13 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155304190

Pricey as can be but looks nice.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=156126358

Far more reasonable, and its a Luftwaffe number matching rifle which I think is cool.

Finding one local is kind of hard. The only shop that has older rifles in town sells POS, Russian captured ones for like $300. I want a clean numbers matching GI bringback.

E150GT · #2 02-01-2010, 05:00 PM

I had a Turkish Mauser once. Paid $50 for it. Made in Ankara in 1941.

toomany MBZ · #3 02-01-2010, 05:03 PM

Nice, but Soviet WWII rifles are cheaper.
Spent $300 on my VKT M39.
Similar ammo costs tho.

LUVMBDiesels · #4 02-01-2010, 05:12 PM

I just picked up a Spanish Civil War Mauser with decent wood and a slick action and very good bore for $150

You have to be careful with Mausers, LOTS of them are carrying markings they never left the armory with. Case in point is Mitchell's Mausers, They only thing real about them is that they are Mausers

If this is a real Luftwaffe rifle in great shape it is worth a lot more than $450

I am getting into them now that I am getting tired of my French Berthier carbines.
Got to feed the obsession...

Pooka · #5 02-01-2010, 07:30 PM

I have a Mauser 8mm from 1890 that shoots true. I picked it up about 30 years ago for $35.

And in one of those 'If I had only known' stories....

In 1968 I was shopping at an Army Surplus store and they had saw-tooth bayonetts for the 8mm Mauser. Hundreds of them, with the sheaths, left over from WW One..

A friend of mine bought one for his 8mm, but I could not think of when I would ever use it so I did not. Besides, at $2 each they were a bit steep in price.

Now I wish I had bought the entire lot, but who knew?

toomany MBZ · #6 02-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pooka

I have a Mauser 8mm from 1890 that shoots true. I picked it up about 30 years ago for $35.

Many things were cheaper in 1980.

Pooka · #7 02-01-2010, 09:27 PM

No, the markings on it are LOEWEBERLIIN 1890.

It still has the original strap. It has been modified to take the longer cartarge, that is it is stamped with the 'S'.

This thing has some kind of kick.

Hatterasguy · #8 02-01-2010, 10:42 PM

They are going really high, I'm going to watch them and see where they end.

I may end up buying a K31 insted since they are cheaper and nail drivers.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155765673

The straight pull action is kind of funky at first but its slick once you get used to it. You would need a semi to outpace it.

MAG58 · #9 02-01-2010, 11:20 PM

My 1918 wwi gun shoot great. For what it is, I can hit pie tins all day long at 300 yards on old mil-spec ammo.

my K43 burns ammo faster though

LUVMBDiesels · #10 02-02-2010, 06:06 AM

I am kicking myself for not buying an Argentine Crested one back in the '80s when they were under $60! Now that I finally have one, I cannot wait to shoot Rocinante next week when my stripper clips and ammo get here.
He will have to spend range time sharing with Belinda, Margo, and Suzy the two French carbines and the 10/22 respectfully.

Rocinante is a beat up work horse, but still pristine internally.

Yes I am crazy for naming them

I am just leery of any "LUFTWAFFE" rifle with lots of eagles and swastikas.

75Sv1 · #11 02-02-2010, 07:58 AM

I have a few mauser stories, and a few actions, too. One story is when I was working in the machine shop for the company I work for. The supervisor said he had a sporter mauser rifle, that an uncle of his gave him. It was suppose to old, and had a stepped barrel. On hearing that, I naturally presummed that it was just a sporterized military mauser. He insisted it was not. I said I'd look at it. The stock was broken, but a european style stock, and well made. I dissassembled the action. Somethings puzzled me. I have dissassbled a few mauser actions, and know some of the design features and their functions. Some of those features were missing. Still, it had many of the features of an M-98 and features that an M-96 wouldn't have. I told him, he had something rare as in an early production run or prototype. I do have a WWI era action, and it has all the classic M-98 design features.
I told him he needed to have it apraised or evaluated by someone who is a real expert on them. I didn't want to hazzard a guess on it value. He contact a guy who wrote a book on Mausers. Not Ollofsohn. It was a large book with a lot of high quality picutures. The aurthor requested picutres. The guy had studio quality picutres taken. THe aurthor had picutres on of a simular rifle and action in his first book. He requested pictures of this rifle for his second book.
The stock on that rifle was broken in half on the grip. The guy asked if I could repair it. I didn't think my skill was good enough, or that someone could repair it better than I could. He had a violin restorer do the work. I could barely see any repair or crack. And I knew where the crack was at.
Some of the actions I have had are 1909 Argentine, 1909 Peruvian and 1910 Peruvian. The Peruvians are middle length action with large ring, small threads. The first on was on a Santa Fe sporter, that one of my brothers bought. He gave it to me for my action for TSJC gunsmithing project. I built a light weight sport in 7mm-08. He still has that rilfe, offically its mine. He also bought me a JC Higgins m-20 (or 21). It has an FN sporter action. I actually haven't seen it. Anyways one of the Peruvians has a bolt that recesses into the barrel, like the Japanese Arisaka. I also have one of those actions. The Arisakas are suppose to be very strong action. I have hears a few storys of the abbuse they can take.
Tom

LUVMBDiesels · #12 02-02-2010, 08:36 AM

^^^^Very cool

Mark DiSilvestro · #13 02-02-2010, 08:44 AM

Back in the late '80s, I was Christmas shopping at Woolco, and found a rack of about 60 Swedish 6.5 cal. rifles. Most were marked Carl Gustavs, but while looking through the assortment, I found one with Mauser markings. The wood was a bit dinged up, but the metal was nearly pristine, with beautiful bluing, so I bought it. I've since learned my rifle is a relatively rare early Mauser production, before manufacture of this model was moved to Sweden. The price? $50!

Happy Motoring, Mark

75Sv1 · #14 02-02-2010, 09:22 AM

Just as an aside, the mauser action does have some minor flaws. Mainly, weak bedding points. Still, the main streangth is if/when things go wrong, the gasses etc. are drirected away from the shooter. Also, they get knocked for having a stepped barrel. The common logic or view is that this is due to make for cheap manufacturing. Notice in my story above, about a stepped barrel on a sporter Mauser. This wasn't from the Mauser factory,which would have been big buck, but a custom shop or smaller manufacture in Germany. In that case, I doubt they were trying to cut cost. From what I was told, a barrel has a certain amount of harmonics to a particular cartridge and its load, ie grains of powder and bullet wieght. If you place the steps at the right places, the harmonics will be negated. Thus a more accurate barrel, for that particular load. That also goes for the twist of rifleing.
Also, high end english shotguns are choked to a particular load. I have heard that even changing the type of primer, will open or close the shot pattern in a shotgun.
Tom

pj67coll · #15 02-02-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels

If this is a real Luftwaffe rifle in great shape it is worth a lot more than $450

True.

The only one's I have from Germany are R/C ones. I'd love an "original" unmolested one but funds don't permit and likely never will. I do have some interesting Czech actions I'm planning on re-barelling with Lothar Walther Barrels from Germany and seeing how accurate the CZ98/22 can be. But those are projects that will take some time.

- Peter.