Has Mercedes ever had problems with their electronic throttle's like Toyota is currently experiencing?

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

its not toyotas fault actually its the suppliers fault. Drive by wire throttle is being used by mercedes with no issues what so ever. The toyota problem is supplier and software issue

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1986 300SDL, 211K,Dealership serviced its whole life
1991 190E 2.6(120k)
1983 300D(300k)
1977 300D(211k)

I suspect more software than supplier.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

certainly...

on my 190d and a few 240d s that I have driven, when one applies pressure to the accelerator.... the car goes nowhere.

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I understand that part of the problem is that lack of a safety subroutine in the Toyota programming that "zero's" the throttle if the brake is pressed.

This subroutine is standard programming on the Mercedes. I can floor the throttle on the highway with one foot and press the brake with the other and the car will slow and stop as if I wasn't even pressing the throttle.

Now, our Tundra is a different animal and it will continue to try and accelerate even with hard braking.

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-Evan


Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

That's what they say ... not what everybody believes ...

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Make sure you hang on to that 240D Bodhi...

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

No, although on the old cars they can stick sometimes if you don't lube the linkages.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Not really....due to the way they are designed, at least the 617's....it would make it harder to press, but it will always retract. Both the IP and the throttle lever have return springs....

Electronic cars are just dumb. I was driving a PT cruiser today (work car)...and they suck, torque-free technology, like most american cars.....and they shift by cutting out the engine, shifting, then re-applying power. Not to mention the disconnected feeling steering and the throttle pedal feels like you're pressing on a spring. Modern cars = ick

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

That makes heel-toe shifting impossible. Not an issue if you have a slush though.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

The spring on the back of the IP can pop off, though, which makes things interesting. Ask me how I know.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

Throttle actuators poop out all the time with 90s Mercedes, but never have the ran out of control. Usually they won't go at all, trigger an ASR light, etc.

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1985 500SL Euro w/ AMG bits 130k
1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k
1980 240D Stick China 188k
2001 CLK55 AMG 101k
2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!!

I guess the moral of the story here is that Mercedes does it the smart way and installs a fail safe, Toyota doesn't.

Fly by wire has been in use for many decades now and has proven to be reliable, don't see why it won't work for cars.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Only if your wearing stilettoes.

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"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

I don't know about software, but Toyota has come out and stated that the gas pedal supplier is not at fault.

http://www.mississauga.com/news/article/544488--cts-not-to-blame-toyota

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Jonathan

2011 Mazda2
2000 E320 4Matic Wagon
1994 C280 (retired)