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Move over Holocaust, You're Being Passed by the Congo

The World Capital of Killing

It’s easy to wonder how world leaders, journalists, religious figures and ordinary citizens looked the other way while six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. And it’s even easier to assume that we’d do better.

But so far the brutal war here in eastern Congo has not only lasted longer than the Holocaust but also appears to have claimed more lives. A peer- reviewed study put the Congo war’s death toll at 5.4 million as of April 2007 and rising at 45,000 a month. That would leave the total today, after a dozen years, at 6.9 million.


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Old 02-10-2010, 10:04 PM
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Without reading the article, one needs to keep in mind that "The Holocaust" comes with trademark protection.
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All because of the Wests and China's hunger for diamonds, gold, copper, cobalt, coltan, zinc, etc, etc.
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Well the UN should do something about it, this is what they exist for. We don't have to provide 90% of the foot soliders for every UN operation. Maybe France or Germany can take the lead here and put 50k troops on the ground to stop this. Or how about China, they really want to be a 1st world power, perfect chance.

I know it isn't PC, but frankly the world doesn't care. If they did their would be peace keeping troops on the ground to stop it.
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Well the UN should do something about it, this is what they exist for. We don't have to provide 90% of the foot soliders for every UN operation. Maybe France or Germany can take the lead here and put 50k troops on the ground to stop this. Or how about China, they really want to be a 1st world power, perfect chance.

I know it isn't PC, but frankly the world doesn't care. If they did their would be peace keeping troops on the ground to stop it.
The world doesn't care and that's why they did sent in the UN.
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The World Capital of Killing

It’s easy to wonder how world leaders, journalists, religious figures and ordinary citizens looked the other way while six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. And it’s even easier to assume that we’d do better.

But so far the brutal war here in eastern Congo has not only lasted longer than the Holocaust but also appears to have claimed more lives. A peer- reviewed study put the Congo war’s death toll at 5.4 million as of April 2007 and rising at 45,000 a month. That would leave the total today, after a dozen years, at 6.9 million.


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Only Jews died in the holocaust? Wow- and you deride others who get bad info.
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All because of the Wests and China's hunger for diamonds, gold, copper, cobalt, coltan, zinc, etc, etc.
It's a bit more complicated than that.

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Wasn't it already surpassed by our good friend Stalin?
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Only Jews died in the holocaust? Wow- and you deride others who get bad info.
It is estimated that 11 Million were victims of the Holocaust, of which an estimated 6 Million were Jewish. What's your point again?
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It's a bit more complicated than that.

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Explain please.
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Explain please.
The civil war was not caused by the big bad foreigners stealing all their mineral wealth.

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The civil war was not caused by the big bad foreigners stealing all their mineral wealth.

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I forgot you're from South Africa.

This is from Wikepedia:

"Congo Free State (1885–1908)
Main article: Congo Free State
Children mutilated during King Leopold II's rule

The Congo Free State was a corporate state privately controlled by Leopold II, King of the Belgians through the Association Internationale Africaine, a non-governmental organization. Leopold was the sole shareholder and chairman. The state included the entire area of the present Democratic Republic of the Congo. Under Leopold II's administration, the Congo Free State became the site of one of the most infamous international scandals of the turn of the twentieth century. The report of the British Consul Roger Casement led to the arrest and punishment of white officials who had been responsible for cold-blooded killings during a rubber-collecting expedition in 1903, including one Belgian national for causing the shooting of at least 122 Congolese natives. Estimates of the total death toll vary considerably. In the absence of a census, the first was made in 1924, it is even more difficult to quantify the population loss of the period. Roger Casement's famous 1904 report estimated ten million people. According to Casement's report, indiscriminate "war", starvation, reduction of births and tropical diseases caused the country's depopulation.[1]

The European and U.S. press agencies exposed the conditions in the Congo Free State to the public in 1900. By 1908 public and diplomatic pressure led Leopold II to the annex the Congo as the Belgian Congo colony."


"Belgian Congo (1908–1960)
Main article: Belgian Congo

On November 15, 1908 King Léopold II of Belgium formally relinquished personal control of the Congo Free State. The renamed Belgian Congo came under the administration of the Belgian parliament, which lasted until independence was granted in 1960.[citation needed]

The Belgian administration might be most charitably characterized as paternalistic colonialism. Roman Catholic and Protestant churches dominated the education system and the curricula reflected Christian and Western values. In 1948 Christian missions controlled 99.6% of educational facilities. They had little regard for native culture and beliefs. Native schools provided a mainly religious and vocational education."

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It is estimated that 11 Million were victims of the Holocaust, of which an estimated 6 Million were Jewish. What's your point again?
The emphasis ought to be on 'estimated', right? It's amazing how those numbers keep shifting upward, decade after decade ...
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I see, an atrocity is less so because there is no irrefutible accounting. Got it.
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I see, an atrocity is less so because there is no irrefutible accounting. Got it.
And in that light, since the numbers in Congo aren't exact, does it count?

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