Home schooling and evolution
 

Evolution and Home school text books


This is what I found most interesting.

That's like saying if your demographics believe the moon is made of cheese you will write a book to support that. How does that give any home schooled kid any credibility?

Then there was this gem.
Apparently that was a editing error that will be corrected in future books. What a load of BS.

evowhatnow? Why is it a problem for the book publisher to write those things in their textbook? If some religious nutjob parent wants to indoctrinate their kid into that, they can go right ahead.

He mentioned it because it disgusts him....as it does me.

It's just parroting what the bible says... if you're gonna homeschool your kid "SuperFundamentalist Christian style" you're going to tell him or her that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, no?

I recently read that poll results indicate that about 40% of americans are young earth creationests. Who are these people? That's like learning that 1/3 of americans don't believe in gravity. FWIW, the numbers in islamic nations are even higher. Very scarry.

Regarding home schooling, most states have some type of periodic testing requirements. In researching home schooling for my daughter (who can't attend school this year for medical reasons) I found lots of religious based providers. I ended up with a private tutoring provider.

No, you see those are "society's" children. Imagine how hard it will be to re-educate them when they go to college!

Darwin was a Malthusian and an ideologue. His dogma is every bit as crooked as any organized religion.

My answer when someone wants to argue it's evolution or creationism, pick one or the other -

Evolution is still just a theory. And it doesn't say outright that God didn't create the earth - it just attempts to explain how he went about it. I've no problem believing that God created the earth, and that like a carpenter using a hammer, evolution was one of the tools he used to create it.

If they then want to pull out the six day argument, I ask them to tell me "how long is one of God's days?"

For a window into what happens to these fundamentalist home schooled children, watch the documentary 'Jesus Camp'
I agree that such overwhelming indoctrination in early childhood is very hard to overcome at the college level. I don't think the issue is strictly evolution/creation. That conflict is just one small part of a much more basic conflict between a literal reading of the Bible or Qur'an and the rest of modern knowledge. The extreme patriarchy of these fundamentalist movements is an equal danger to their medieval science.
My experience has been that homeschooled children are extremely well disciplined students. They will excel where hard work and memorization are the foundations of a discipline such as Mathematics and sciences like Chemistry where the ideological tension between the discipline and fundamentalist religion are minimal. For the most part they are horrific philosophy students and my guess is that the same judgment would apply in sociology. I have seen this repeated in both Christianity and Islam. The potential result is a highly technological but repressive and controlled society. That vision does not seem far fetched to me.

They'll end up going to college's that support the religious dogma. Like ORU or some other school. It's sad that there are accreditation bodies out there that keep allowing these schools to operate.

For me, I am a proud follower of pastafarianism.
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In my experience a fair number go to state schools for economic reasons.

Germany forbids home schooling. Did anyone see the recent case in which that Home School Legal Defense Foundation sponsored a lawsuit by a German fundamentalist Christian family who won political asylum in the US because they would not be allowed to home school in Germany. Big win for that home school foundation.
The home schooling strategy for US theocrats has been in the works for many decades. Christian Reconstructionists around R. K. Rushdoony, the conservative Presbyterian theocrat began advocating it in the later 1950's or 60's as a way of breeding a generation of ideological Christian theocrats. I think we are seeing the fruits of that strategy in our current political climate.

In my experience a lot of home schooled fundamentalists go to public colleges and universities for economic reasons. The fundamentalist colleges are more expensive.
Did anyone read about the recent lawsuit brought by the homeschool legal defense foundation on behalf of a German Christian fundamentalist family seeking political asylum in the US because they couldn't homeshool in Germany, where it is illegal. They won.
Homeschooling has been a long term political strategy of Christian Theocrats initiated by the followers of R.K. Rushdoony, a fundamentalist Presbyterian beginning the the later 1950's or 60's. I think our current political climate is a result of this deliberate attempt to breed a generation of ideological theocrats.

Jesus Camp was scary, I watched it a few days ago. I remember during one part when that fat preacher lady was talking to the kids I was thinking that it wouldn't take much of a lead in to say here are some AK47's and hand gernades kids, lets go kill some Jews/gays/muslims.

Doctrine wise these people are the same as the terrorists were fighting, they just have an outlet for their frustrations in our system so they don't have to resort to bombs.

Yeah, just like little independent madrassas. Some of them do turn into terrorists. The ones that have killed abortion doctors and Tim McVeigh are pretty good examples. But generally, I think you are correct, they are not as likely to turn violent because they see some hope for changing the US political system to serve their interests.

My wife (a teacher) is looking at homeschooling her daughter 2nd grade next year for medical reasons as well. I found a place online called k12online that she might use. Doesn't seem to be any religious crap involved there and they adhere to state standards so they seem to be a good organization.

I agree though that most home schooling organizations seem to be religious nutjobs.

- Peter.

Yep, but if that were to change for any reasons watch out! They will be suicide bombing Starbucks.