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kerry 05-01-2010 01:25 PM

Non carpet stair covering?
 
Got an apt that is on the 2nd and 3rd floor with interior staircase. Staircase has had carpet since I've owned it. Don't like carpet. Stairs turn 90 degrees with a small landing. Took the carpet off the landing and put down oak laminate. Would like to get rid of carpet on the stairs themselves but they are built of plywood. Figured I can tile the rises and they wouldn't look bad, possibly quite nice. But what to do with the runs? Don't think it's feasible to pull out the plywood and replace with oak runs. Any creative solutions out there?

mpolli 05-01-2010 02:32 PM

My only concern is the noise increase from no carpet, if it is shared housing. Lots of condo complexes, for example, prohibit removing carpet from stairs.

I don't know what to do with plywood stairs unfortunately. Plywood is pretty much made to be carpeted.

MTI 05-01-2010 02:36 PM

Solid or engineered wood can be sound deadened with the proper underlayment.

t walgamuth 05-01-2010 08:20 PM

I would caution against slippery wood on a landing. We had it at our old historic house and the kids kept falling on the turn. I finally carpted the landings only.

On the treads the best thing is a full vinyl tread though they look clunky and are pretty pricey.

kerry 05-01-2010 08:51 PM

No kids in the place. I found instructions explaining how to put hardwood on the runs and risers. I may do that. Or, I may put laminate on the steps if I can find acceptable laminate stair nosing. Looks like Lumber Liquidators may have some.

MS Fowler 05-02-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2459713)
No kids in the place. I found instructions explaining how to put hardwood on the runs and risers. I may do that. Or, I may put laminate on the steps if I can find acceptable laminate stair nosing. Looks like Lumber Liquidators may have some.

Let me know how this works out. I hope to redo the floors in my house--replacing wall to wall with hardwood, or laminate. I prefer hardwood. Are there treads and nose pieces available for covering the complete stair?

As for laminates---How good are they? I like the look and feel of wood. Is hardwood a better product?

kerry 05-02-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2459863)
Let me know how this works out. I hope to redo the floors in my house--replacing wall to wall with hardwood, or laminate. I prefer hardwood. Are there treads and nose pieces available for covering the complete stair?

As for laminates---How good are they? I like the look and feel of wood. Is hardwood a better product?

Over the years I've mostly used solid unfinished hardwood and finished it myself. However, I've put down some inexpensive Sam's Club laminate the last couple of years. I started using it in a basement over concrete because hardwood wasn't possible. The finish on the laminate is far superior to anything I could put on hardwood myself. But the same would probably apply to prefinished hardwood. The problem with prefinished hardwood from a landlord's point of view is that it's simply for me to repair damaged finish if it did it myself--just stain and polyurethane. But repairing prefinished hardwood invisibly seems very difficult.
Laminate looks as good as hardwood but does not have the feel of hardwood underfoot. But laminate can probably be installed in a third of the time for about a third of the cost. It can also be replaced quickly, unlike hardwood which is fastened to the floor.
From what I have read, there is stair nosing for both hardwood and laminate that can be retrofitted for stairs designed for carpet. The nose of the stair must be cut off. However, you have to make up the tread from the material. In my case, probably one single piece of laminate would cover the tread. I also probably have enough left over oak hardwood I could use with oak stair nosing if I wanted to finish the stairs myself.

Stretch 05-02-2010 10:46 AM

I had a similar problem and went for cork flooring that was manufactured in the form of long wide laminate flooring runs - they click in place just like laminate. Cork is warm under foot and not too loud when walked on.

For the stair nosings I screwed on aluminium strips:- a 90 degree angle bit and a grooved edge for grip. It has been fixed now for about 5 years and is daily abused by children and adults a like... it seems to be holding up well.

The cork flooring system I used is made by Wickanders - I don't know if they sell stuff in the US

kerry 05-02-2010 11:29 AM

I hadn't thought about aluminum stair nosing. That may be the ticket. I could get cheap Sam's Club laminate like I already put on the landing, cut pieces to fit both the tread and the riser and then cover the nose with aluminum. This would avoid having to cut off the existing nosing to put wood or laminate nosing in its place. Quick, visually appealing, quiet because the laminate has a foam backing, and inexpensive. And if anything happens to a tread it is easily replaceable. I like it.

Stretch 05-02-2010 12:33 PM

Forgot to say
 
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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2459911)
I hadn't thought about aluminum stair nosing. That may be the ticket. I could get cheap Sam's Club laminate like I already put on the landing, cut pieces to fit both the tread and the riser and then cover the nose with aluminum. This would avoid having to cut off the existing nosing to put wood or laminate nosing in its place. Quick, visually appealing, quiet because the laminate has a foam backing, and inexpensive. And if anything happens to a tread it is easily replaceable. I like it.

I reinforced my nosing by gluing it with that sealant type glue that says it lasts for 20 years or so. Shop around for your aluminium strips if you do decide to do this - I found a vast difference in prices for the same quality stuff and it does mount up when you work out how much you'll need.


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