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420benz 05-18-2010 10:03 PM

Computer Question
 
My FREE AVG anti virus is about to expire. Can i just download it again free?

Ara T. 05-18-2010 11:26 PM

Just uninstall that (junk in my experience) and try malware bytes or microsoft security essentials

pawoSD 05-19-2010 07:04 AM

Antivirus programs just slow the computer down, I've never run one, and I have yet to get a virus.

Zeus 05-19-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 420 benz (Post 2470000)
My FREE AVG anti virus is about to expire. Can i just download it again free?

Yes, you can download the latest version for free.

powerpig 05-19-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2470171)
Antivirus programs just slow the computer down, I've never run one, and I have yet to get a virus.

If you don't have a virus scan utility, how do you know that you've never or don't have a virus or trojan? Many run in "stealth" mode.

okyoureabeast 05-19-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by powerpig (Post 2470211)
If you don't have a virus scan utility, how do you know that you've never or don't have a virus or trojan? Many run in "stealth" mode.

Unlike the days of old where you can get infected just by visiting a site we have a lot of tools now that basically make antivirus software obsolete.

I call it practicing safe computing. Kind of like safe sex, but with more high tech stuff.

For starters if you use Internet Explorer you deserve to get a virus period. IE is by far one of the worst browsers out there in terms of security.

Use a browser that not only supports internet standards, but also has extensions like Firefox's adblock plus or Adblock for Chrome. You can also download a tool like "NoScript" which takes adblock plus to a whole new level of configuration.

Also make sure you are running the latest software. Run Windows Update on a weekly basis and make sure your third party software like Flash, Java, etc are all updated.

Run a firewall and set it up so you have to review every program that wants access to the outside world. You can set up the firewall so once you click yes it will always be able to connect.

Finally, if you don't know what a program is or does do not run it. Do not install a fish tank screensaver, download a program that claims you have a virus and it found all sorts of stuff through an online scanner, etc.

Be smart, safe, and above all vigilant. I treat my computer like I treat my car.

Edit: If you're not as computer savvy as the rest of us, then I recommend you download AVG's free version. There is no sense in paying for antivirus since they will always be a step behind the virus writers. Heck Norton, McAfee, etc have never been able to successfully remove a virus for me.

diametricalbenz 05-19-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by powerpig (Post 2470211)
If you don't have a virus scan utility, how do you know that you've never or don't have a virus or trojan? Many run in "stealth" mode.

I'll second that.

powerpig 05-19-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2470224)
Unlike the days of old where you can get infected just by visiting a site we have a lot of tools now that basically make antivirus software obsolete.

Edit: If you're not as computer savvy as the rest of us, then I recommend you download AVG's free version. There is no sense in paying for antivirus since they will always be a step behind the virus writers. Heck Norton, McAfee, etc have never been able to successfully remove a virus for me.

Thanks for the great advice. As the director of information technology for a large government agency, I will take this to heart and implement immediately. Thanks for saving my digital life. :rolleyes:

okyoureabeast 05-19-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by powerpig (Post 2470288)
Thanks for the great advice. As the director of information technology for a large government agency, I will take this to heart and implement immediately. Thanks for saving my digital life. :rolleyes:

I do what I can. Government IT departments need all the help they can get :D I'll take my consultant fee in a check sent to...

At the enterprise level, there are some great antivirus options that can pinpoint trouble makers.

Do you guys deploy Firefox over active directory with adblock plus? That was one of the best things I did for the wee little school district I work at.

powerpig 05-19-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2470305)
I do what I can. Government IT departments need all the help they can get :D I'll take my consultant fee in a check sent to...

At the enterprise level, there are some great antivirus options that can pinpoint trouble makers.

Do you guys deploy Firefox over active directory with adblock plus? That was one of the best things I did for the wee little school district I work at.

Firefox isn't approved. The government uses IE except in certain circumstances. There are several security tools in place which I can't discuss.

toomany MBZ 05-19-2010 11:07 AM

Good luck with getting rid of AGV.

Zeus 05-19-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2470224)
Unlike the days of old where you can get infected just by visiting a site we have a lot of tools now that basically make antivirus software obsolete.

For starters if you use Internet Explorer you deserve to get a virus period. IE is by far one of the worst browsers out there in terms of security.

I work in IT. For business use, I have to use IE for certain apps/CMS systems. With web development you need to test deployment and code in a variety of browsers, and IE is still the dominant browser and if often interprets code differently from FF and others. Some dev code will only work in IE. So not using it isn't an option.

Hence I use IE on both my work and personal computers. I'm guessing many work environments do as well as there are licensing and support considerations tied to this. Some vendors will only qualify support and SLA agreements when using Microsoft certified products, from OS to browsers.

AVG runs very lean, if it even remotely affects a PC's performance, then there are bigger issues with said PC than AV software.

There are also sophisticated malware hijacks out there that can slip in through browsers and can and will infect an unprotected PC - even with browser security and add-ons enabled. To not run a free service that works well is not a good idea, IMO.

Just adding my $0.02...the more I learn, the more grey everything becomes...

cmbdiesel 05-19-2010 11:15 AM

After many years of AVG, I have switched to Avast!
It seems lighter and less obstrusive than AVG, and is free as well.

okyoureabeast 05-19-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus (Post 2470341)
I work in IT. For business use, I have to use IE for certain apps/CMS systems. With web development you need to test deployment and code in a variety of browsers, and IE is still the dominant browser and if often interprets code differently from FF and others. Some dev code will only work in IE. So not using it isn't an option.

Hence I use IE on both my work and personal computers. I'm guessing many work environments do as well as there are licensing and support considerations tied to this. Some vendors will only qualify support and SLA agreements when using Microsoft certified products, from OS to browsers.

AVG runs very lean, if it even remotely affects a PC's performance, then there are bigger issues with said PC than AV software.

There are also sophisticated malware hijacks out there that can slip in through browsers and can and will infect an unprotected PC - even with browser security and add-ons enabled. To not run a free service that works well is not a good idea, IMO.

Just adding my $0.02...the more I learn, the more grey everything becomes...

I understand the pain :( We finally killed off our older IE6 only web apps with some better home brewed web apps. After that ended we phased out IE6 for IE8 and basically switched over to it.

I agree with the sentiment that AVG is lean. It's a great program and I recommend to users all the time for a home environment. We have a special version of Mcafee for the campus, but after the whole miserable experience a couple of weeks ago AVG is just better to use overall.

However, a properly configured firewall will catch malware very quickly with outbound and inbound rules set up. Windows 7 has a pretty good built in firewall and the Tomato firmware for my Linksys router is just as good.

I think we can all agree though that backing up daily is important. Between 7 and 10.6 my terabyte enclosure is almost full.

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Originally Posted by powerpig (Post 2470329)
Firefox isn't approved. The government uses IE except in certain circumstances. There are several security tools in place which I can't discuss.

At the Federal level you guys have some nifty tools in place. I have a vendetta against internet explorer, hence my hatred for it. I still hope though that your critical systems aren't connected to the outside world. I've read enough articles about power plants, hospitals, various alphabet soup agencies, etc connecting critical systems to the outside world.

What agency do you work for if you don't mind me asking or is it classified? :P

powerpig 05-19-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast (Post 2470353)
At the Federal level you guys have some nifty tools in place. I have a vendetta against internet explorer, hence my hatred for it. I still hope though that your critical systems aren't connected to the outside world. I've read enough articles about power plants, hospitals, various alphabet soup agencies, etc connecting critical systems to the outside world.

What agency do you work for if you don't mind me asking or is it classified? :P

Our critical systems are on a closed network. I work for an agency in the DOD.


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