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Be thankful !
Ive been working on a 97 jeep with a known jeep electrical problem.
The volume of answers that end in...''I think... it might be this... maybe this will work ... ect'' are more frustrating than the initial problem... grrr. I think one poster truly has the answer... 'take the jeep to a field with a can of gas....' At least here like the answer or not, from what Ive seen, 99% + of the time WE get definitive answers here.
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I find that most people have the definitive answer in response to a "similar" issue for which they suffered............they are not able to digest the varying symptoms of the OP and actually provide an answer to HIS issue. Vehicles have an enormous number of variables that affect a specific issue and the change of one of them can result in a completely different diagnosis. This is a common problem among mechanics, as well. The have the diagnosis, albeit wrong, before they have garnered all the symptoms. |
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So its like, "NEVER in doubt; sometimes wrong"
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I hear you both and Id say that most of the time a wrong diagnosis and suggested plan of repair is put forth its corrected by other members before the OP could get a tool box open unless he/she is using a wireless laptop.
I'll start by saying I am nooo fan of jeeps and were it not for a long friendship would not be working on this one. This one has a stable electrical issue rather than intermittent. Fixing this has been like peeling an onion after sorting out the breading. Yes all vehicles have problems that have several options. In reading here Ive seen most of that type to at least mention subsequent possible solutions, not just say 'this is it'. So far Ive found 2 of 'this is it !! ' that when tested have proven to NOT be it...
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I am Thankful for Everything that The Lord gives me.
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Here at peachparts, I can generally find answers to any questions I may have with a little searching. Failing that, I can post a specific inquiry, and I know whose replies I can assume will probably be most applicable. This site is the best automotive technical forum by far!
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Those are the gremlins that the "stock" forum replies will NEVER solve...even if it's from the Master Techs!
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The sheer volume of information is staggering. I was a guest, then a member for quite some time before I ever posted anything, just came in, got my answers and went about my business.
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the one here is a '97 GC V8 with 97K. No key in the ignition has 300 ma draw as measured at the battery. 3 batterys have been replaced this yr. Tried the 'its always this' of the PCM screws. It was not those screws. The 50A MUX/T fuse under the hood being pulled dropped the current draw to about 40ma. Havent gotten to the fuse bank on the passengers side yet. Another forum mentioned the fuse 7 which I have at least located. I have pulled most of the connectors under the drivers side with no change in any of them. Decades of aviation solid connectors out there and jeep ect goes to the extreme of redesigning them... what smucks.
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Have you tried the "pull every fuse you can find" trick, and what kind of aftermarket equipment does it have?
FWIW- Do you know what you get when you cross AMC breeding, Renault design, and Dodge quality? A four letter word for electrical problems. There hasn't been a good Jeep since Kaiser sold out. |
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No aftermarket equipment ... will be doing the fuse by fuse from the interior fusebox after I make a nice long set of jumpers.
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You can thank your lucky stars it's not a Jeep Liberty CRD. Spent about 3K at least in the first 2 years fixing all the design flaws DC built into the vehicle - like a weak-kneed torque converter, no fuel lift pump, crappy main fuel filter, air inlet that sucked up 1/2" of water inside the housing when you drove in the rain, AND a Chrysler-speced Optima battery that developed a shorted cell within a year - etc, etc.
Perhaps they started farming out all the electrical parts to Lucas, known otherwise as the Prince of Darkness.
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i'm sure you've been here
http://www.jeepforum.com/
but maybe not...this place helped me when my 96 GC (ZJ) was killing me softly with electrical and mechanical issues. below is a thread i found related to mysterious battery drainage http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/instrument-cluster-circuit-battery-drain-527539/
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Yes Ive been there and also have read that thread a couple of times.
Its a prime example of how 'solid' the input is... It could be the PCM It could be the BCM It could be the window regulators It could be the back window switch. No doubt I missed a couple. I am not gonna rip the dash and half the interior apart chasing a factory defect. I will sure never own such a piece of sheeet !! Ive opted for one intelligent response I read. Mount a relay that is powered by the on side of the ignition switch that controls the power to the 50A circuit. THAT will stop the current drain. Parts from a Tenn lister on fleabay delivered are about $5
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