I am very disturbed to read this in the W Times.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/27/the-un-gun-grabber/

This is pretty much identical to how the UK took away firearms

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I think the biggest difference is that the UK never had a Constitutionally enshrined right to own firearms. You do. This complicates things well beyond the British example.

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yes, but, the government has moved against that right in a direct fashion. by forcing the people to REGISTER their guns. the word "Register" comes from the word "Regal" which means BELONGING TO THE KING. so......once anything or anyone is "registered", who or what do they belong to?

BEEP: times up, news fans, the answer: THE KING

the NRA has been preaching this message for years. the FIRST step to confiscation is REGISTRATION. it happened in Kalifornia and it will continue to happen as some of the more dumbed down amongst us continue to REGISTER everything from children to guns.

The paranoia is strong today

no, some amongst us do not read their dictionaries, or if they do, they fail to understand the implications of some of the words and terms listed therein.

umm, the word "paranoia" is also in the big book o' words . . . or are we only supposed to read just some of them?

here is one definition of 'paranoia' from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid

accusing someone of 'paranoia' is a lame attempt to discredit them when one has nothing of substance to contradict a statement or a fact.

I'm in the process of acquiring a piece for personal protection - as I understand it I have no choice but to purchase it through a licensed facility (even when purchasing over internet it has to be delivered to a licensed place for pickup) which will force registration - correcto?!

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Please check your research.

Date of Origin 14th c.
Register comes via Old French registre from late Latin regestum ‘list’. This was a noun use of the past participle of regerere ‘bring back’, hence ‘set down, record’, a compound verb formed from the prefix re- ‘back, again’ and gerere ‘bring, carry’ (source also of English congest, digest, gesture, jester, suggest, etc).

The number of words that have reg- as a part of them changes because until about 1750, no one had any rules in most languages except French and Spanish for spelling. The ones used in English in those days were done by Samuel Johnson and Bishop Hood. The US had no spelling rules until 1820 and used a mix of British and French ones.

Bottom line: your historical reference is flawed. Therefore, so is your ;logic.

I am also concerned about gun ownership, but I am also in agreement on some things.

Own whatever you want that is reasonable. having proof of ownership is good in case of theft.

I own an AK-47 and several other Russian weapons, plus Korean and Chinese ones, plus sniper rifles.
HOWEVER:
I don't want the lunatic down the street to stock pile 500 RPG rounds and a box of 200 grenades in his garage. Nor should he be allowed to own anti-aircraft guns like the ZSU 23-4, even if it is a cool thing.

I don't care if he owns a Barrett Light .50, if he wants it and he's got the money, fine.

Let's quit being stupid and let's quit bringing up the extremes on this debate.

In the meantime, I'm going shooting tomorrow.

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Buy any long gun in Michigan and you don't need to register it if you buy it from an individual. You don't even need to show a driver's license. Walk up, buy, pay, walk away.

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The federal form used for the background check is not SUPPOSED to be kept by the government. It is supposed to be purged on a regular (I think every 24 hour) basis.
The record that the FFL holder keeps in his book is permanent, but is not supposed to be used by the government except to audit the FFL holder.
If you live in a free state you will not have to REGISTER you gun at all....

There is no Federal database of firearms... YET...

If this treaty gets signed and RATIFIED by the Senate - it could end the whole 2nd Amendment Incorporation movement.

This must not happen

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There is no database of ALL firearms, but the Treasury collects the names of people who have paid the tax stamp on Class III full auto weapons.

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Nice chunk of BS. The word comes from the Latin word regestrum, which means "to collect":

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/register

Great example of people who do not care what the real truth is, they only care for "truthiness" -something that sounds plausiby true yet is in fact, false, that can be employed for the sake of argument.

The Washington Times is run by the Moonie Church. They also publish huge poundage of BS to support what are essentially the paranoid and ridiculous ideas of the Unification Church, at the direction of Christ on Earth, the Rev. Moon. Here is the truth: Any treaty requires the consent of 2/3's of the Senate in order to become regarded as US law. The idea that 2/3's of the Senate would go like all "gun control" and stuff on us, is in fact, ridiculous, just like the Moonies are.

What is an example of such weapon - AK?

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There are all kinds of ways to trace firearms, if you are a US citizen, you are the most ID'd person on Earth. Your credit and debit cards track what you buy, your cell phone tracks where you are, and of course, the gun manufacturers maintain their own databases of where their guns are shipped, as do the FFL holders, altho their record retention is shot full of loopholes thanks to the NRA. The police agencies also maintain massive databases of firearms used in crimes, stolen, recovered, any gun that comes into their purview is recorded.

What amazed me the most about gun owner paranoia is they seem to think that American democracy no longer exists. It in fact, does. Registered or unregistered, Americans have broad rights to own firearms that cannot be abridged without the votes of huge legislative majorities and the consent of 3/4's of the states. In over 200 years of our history, that has never happened, and I doubt it ever will.