I'm majoring in computer science and I have to take a chem/bio class or two and physics. I can see calc 1 and calc 2. I just dont know why I will need to know chem to code and program.

sometimes prereqs are a joke.

I understand that you don't see it now, you might see it in 10 years. Don't confuse college/university with a trade school.

ehhh. Whenever I get my degree I probably wont even be working in my field.

Maybe, maybe not. But as an employer, it shows me that you can commit to a course and see it thru. Even if you were to work as something totally unrelated, I will see it as someone who is less likely to just hit a rough patch and quit after I spent all that time and money training them.

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Good point, most people don't end up doing what they though they would be doing. When I was an undergrad, I hated having to take non-engineering classes, now I spend a fair amount of time writing reports and giving presentations. An undergrad curriculum is intended to give a reasonably well rounded education.

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your avatar photos made me do a double take lol

But I agree, english and lit classes are useful. I've got to take a technical report writing class. I sure hope I get an assignment that involves writing a users manual for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, how to assemble, tools/materials needed, trouble shooting, and diagrams!

So tell me why I need English to do AC when I have 3 degrees already. And I think I can speak English well enough, since I translated enough service manuals into English.

This is a fricking racket.

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If you need to write that manual for a government agency, it will end up being about 50 pages long. It's amazing how many very bright technical people can't write to save their lives. There is nothing worse than trying to put together a document with inputs from a bunch of engineers.

I don't know what you need, but if you want a degree from an institution you will have to meet their requirements. If you just want to take a class in AC, find someplace that offers just the class(es) that you need.

Are they making you take a class because English isn't your first language?

Pre-requisites are there that the general population has an improved chance of passing the class. Our friend feels that the school should cater to him and give him a pass while others have to go thru the rigors of the system. Where is the confusion?

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This is about what the general population needs not you. This is what they feel a person IN GENERAL needs. Look at some of the posts in this forum. They don't even know the difference between "your" and "you're". The student in general, needs to do English so they (the institute) can be sure that he/she can understand the material.

Can I offer you an apology for the school that they did not tailor things specific to the almighty you. As I said, you want to be an exception to the rule but you don't want to lift a finger to go to the Dean and beg for an exception. Perhaps you can impress him enough that he might even change the course time to one more suited to you. Maybe even arrange for a hottie instructor and partner for your class? Better yet, maybe he can just give you the grade and materials for free?

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Community colleges sometimes have placement test in English and math to determine if incoming students need additional classes to be successful. These classes are usually only required if you are seeking a degree, you can usually take a technical class as a non-degree student if you are just looking for knowledge.

Sometimes the Dean can also give an exemption. Had that happen before. All of what you say makes sense but our friend thinks he and his 3 degrees should make others bow down and give him an exemption without lifting a finger. When they won't acknowledge his greatness, he throws a hissy fit and calls it a frikin racket. Tell me I am wrong.

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Since you asked: You are wrong.

I wanted to enroll as a guest student to take the class in the subject that I want to study. I expect nothing for free but I don't need to take an English class.

This isn't about greatness, as you erroneously put it, it's about being forced to pay for things you neither want nor need.

Imagine if you wanted to buy a newspaper and you could only buy one if you also bought reading glasses. How long before the market would correct that? Does the newspaper merchant decide what you need? and pay for? Or do you? And if you disagree with him, should I categorize you as being vain and the merchant not" acknowledging your greatness" in not requiring reading glasses?

US auto dealers found this out when they made buyers purchase packages including accessories the customers didn't want and didn't want to buy.

That didn't change until the Japanese companies offered selected individual options instead of, or in addition to, large, expensive packages.

I'll just continue the hunt for a school that offers what I want.

The schools like this have unfortunately left the state.

There is a shortage of certified mechanics in Michigan but the governor cut funding to the tech schools.

Now the only place in Michigan to acquire welding skills in a school is in the outplacement program at the state penitentiary in Jackson.

But they don't have an AC program either

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Once again, maybe YOU don't need the English class but if they feel that the average student needs it, they make it a requirement. You get lumped into the group unless they feel satisfied that you don't need it. As I said, make your case to them and see if they will waive it for you. If not, too bad. Take it or leave it. Calling it a racket makes me thing you want an exemption due to your greatness that they don't recognize. It's not a racket designed to make money only. It is that they are not very good at catering to special cases like yourself.

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