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Old 08-14-2010, 09:01 AM
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At some point when my kids were young teens, they actually found her on the radio and started listening (as a goof), similar to they way they used to watch Jerry Springer on TV when they were very young. They started telling me about some crazy lady on the radio, I eventually figured out who they we talking about. They got bored with the freak show after a little while and moved on. Does anyone over the age of 13 actually listen to this crap?

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Old 08-14-2010, 09:37 AM
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When whites can claim that they were owned but someone else and treated as property, banned from various establishments due to the color of their skin ... etc then we will probably be able to tell all the jokes we want to about who ever we want to. Don't hold your breath.... I think that day is way off in the future if it ever comes.
I guess you've never read the history of the Irish. If you feel you or anyone can say something because of the color of your skin or your religion (Jews are not a race) that's racism, period. Either you accept that the "races" are different -which is what you are saying- or they are not. If they are then let's explore all the differences- like IQ, physical abilities, etc. I don't think you want to open Pandora's box. If they are not, then all is equal and using the N word by a black is as unacceptable as anyone else using it.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:20 AM
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using the N word by a black is as unacceptable as anyone else using it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but a lot of blacks don't.

Its a lot like David saying HE can call his mom a B!tch but nobody else can. I disagree, he should never call his mom that.

Double standard....
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:25 AM
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What about niggardly?
Well, the common meaning is in reference to money, usually meaning "stingy" or "cheap" - Webster's would have a more complete definition - as in "Ebenezer Scrooge paid Bob Cratchet niggardly wages".

Several years ago in NC, a local school official got in hot water, by publicly commenting that the annual school budget approved by the county was "niggardly". There was a firestorm of public reaction, from people who didn't know the definition of the word, and just assumed this meant the same thing as the "n" word.

A statement by the school board explaining what the word meant and the context it was used in didn't do any good - there were those that still kept screaming "racist" - even though the official that used the term was of the same ethnic background as the current resident of the White House - and it didn't die down until said official resigned from the school board in disgust.

That was the irony of it - this person had been fighting for funds he felt was needed to properly educate the children of those that drove him from his position, because the parents of these children were themselves too uneducated and unwilling to listen to understand the meaning of one word.

IMHO, this would fall into the "overreaction and oversensitive" category.
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:42 PM
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Well, the common meaning is in reference to money, usually meaning "stingy" or "cheap" - Webster's would have a more complete definition - as in "Ebenezer Scrooge paid Bob Cratchet niggardly wages".

Several years ago in NC, a local school official got in hot water, by publicly commenting that the annual school budget approved by the county was "niggardly". There was a firestorm of public reaction, from people who didn't know the definition of the word, and just assumed this meant the same thing as the "n" word.

A statement by the school board explaining what the word meant and the context it was used in didn't do any good - there were those that still kept screaming "racist" - even though the official that used the term was of the same ethnic background as the current resident of the White House - and it didn't die down until said official resigned from the school board in disgust.

That was the irony of it - this person had been fighting for funds he felt was needed to properly educate the children of those that drove him from his position, because the parents of these children were themselves too uneducated and unwilling to listen to understand the meaning of one word.

IMHO, this would fall into the "overreaction and oversensitive" category.
I would never back down for this- if stupid ignorant folks wish to show their ignorance in public let them. Society NEEDS and demands folks to not back down to stupidity/ignorance- it's all of our civic duty. No different than a person of color saying the N word and then trying to convince others that it's acceptable.
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interesting. hadn't seen these in a long while. I don't see anything wrong. with the pictures, no matter what she has to say about morality. If someone thinks these are immoral, then they are the ones with the problem. Hell she doesn't look so bad in a few of those. Regarding the photographer being someone other than her husband, well, depends if the shoot was between two lovers or an erotic photo session to be shared with her husband, either way, it is of little consequence.

The web site holder seems to be pretty hate filled and viscious....a typical small minded niwit...
the photographer was her adulterous lover. initially, she denied she was the model. then, she sued for copyright infringement. then, she admitted she was the model. she also speaks oten of the sanctity of marriage. she's a hypocrite and a liar. (and the website is quite amusing. )
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:51 PM
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dr. laura's an idiot, but not for anything she said in that on air exchange. more for her hypocrisy on other issues. anyway, i don't use that word, just because it has such bad associations.
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I would never back down for this- if stupid ignorant folks wish to show their ignorance in public let them. Society NEEDS and demands folks to not back down to stupidity/ignorance- it's all of our civic duty. No different than a person of color saying the N word and then trying to convince others that it's acceptable.
I am mostly OK with this thinking, but not entirely. I do not agree that the use of the N word by, for example, David Chapelle, is the same as the use of the word by a white person. I can't offer any reason other than it just doesn't seem the same to me. His skit (or whatever they call those things) called "Black Bush" is, IMHO, one of the funniest comedy routines ever. Go on youtube and check it out. Parts of it would not be as funny without the N word. This does not prove that it is OK for Chapelle to say that stuff, but I do think his use of the N word in that skit is different than the use of the word by a white person.
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I would never back down for this- if stupid ignorant folks wish to show their ignorance in public let them. Society NEEDS and demands folks to not back down to stupidity/ignorance- it's all of our civic duty. No different than a person of color saying the N word and then trying to convince others that it's acceptable.
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The word niggardly has nothing to do with the word in question on this thread. Only a moron would think that it did.
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:48 PM
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I guess you've never read the history of the Irish. If you feel you or anyone can say something because of the color of your skin or your religion (Jews are not a race) that's racism, period. Either you accept that the "races" are different -which is what you are saying- or they are not. If they are then let's explore all the differences- like IQ, physical abilities, etc. I don't think you want to open Pandora's box. If they are not, then all is equal and using the N word by a black is as unacceptable as anyone else using it.
Excellent reasoning, and right on.

Anyone that claims one race has the franchise on using a word is practicing racism as stated.

That is correct, "Jews, are not a race," it is a religious affiliation - some haven't figured that out yet.

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Old 08-14-2010, 07:01 PM
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using the N word by a black is as unacceptable as anyone else using it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but a lot of blacks don't.

Its a lot like David saying HE can call his mom a B!tch but nobody else can. I disagree, he should never call his mom that.

Double standard....
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:41 AM
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Are we "one people", or are we many people who have voluntarily united?
Does the use of the N word divide us, or unite us?
Is it a true function of government to force unity, or to allow us each to "live and let live"?
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:02 AM
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Excellent reasoning, and right on.

Anyone that claims one race has the franchise on using a word is practicing racism as stated.

That is correct, "Jews, are not a race," it is a religious affiliation - some haven't figured that out yet.
If jews are not a race why do they have a country?
Is it more safe to say the all jews are Isrealis but not all Isrealis are jews?

IF you are jewish I am pretty sure you have almost automatic citizenship in Isreal if desired
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:27 AM
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using the N word by a black is as unacceptable as anyone else using it.
I agree, but a lot of blacks don't.

Its a lot like David saying HE can call his mom a B!tch but nobody else can. I disagree, he should never call his mom that.

Double standard....[/QUOTE]


Of course it's a double standard but that does not mean it is not the way things work. I am sure we have all had bad thoughts about a loved one because they have ticked us off for one reason or another but that does not mean we would let someone else say those same things. Hypocritical? Sure but that is how it works.

I don't like the word, never used the word and I do not like when anyone regardless of color. I also know that I cannot use the word but someone who is black can. Right or wrong I don't care but that's how it seems to work.

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