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Old 08-17-2010, 03:30 PM
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Do you recommend an Umbrella Insurance Policy?

or is it a waste of money?

If I cream a cyclist riding around Chapel Hill at night because he was riding around on a bike with no lights, is this what the Umbrella policy is for?

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Old 08-17-2010, 03:37 PM
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A Personal Umbrella Policy (PUP) is typically a supplemental liability insurance policy that provides coverage against claims arising from negligence. Based on a homeowner's policy, it covers acts by members of the household. Typical policy limits start at $1M and annual premiums vary.

It truly depends on your risk tolerance and the realistic exposure to a claim. If you or your family's lifestyle or environment exposes you to the risk, then a PUP may be a way of getting better sleep at night.
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or is it a waste of money?

If I cream a cyclist riding around Chapel Hill at night because he was riding around on a bike with no lights, is this what the Umbrella policy is for?
Umbrellas are cheap, why insure one ??


Actually you Auto insurance would cover this, within it's limits, then the Umbrella policy kicks in.

Consider it an "Excess policy".

There are limts on what is covered.

Agree with MTI regarding risk tolerance.

It's unfortunate that you would be liable (at all) in this situation, but thats our court system. There might be a reduction in any award for comparitive negligence, but that depends on the state etc, but you would still get dinged probably.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:28 PM
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I live in a college town where idiotic college kids ride their bicycles at night with no lights (just reflectors). I'm sure they are required (to have lights) but no one enforces the rule.

I think getting this insurance is a good idea.
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Umbrella coverage is inexpensive. in the event someone were to sue you for more $$$ than either your homeowners or auto insurance covers, the judgement would land on you. which means they can garnish your wages, seize cars, your wife (just kidding), etc etc.

so.....in light of the fact that we live in a lawsuit happy country, it isn't a bad idea. personally, I think the answer is to take all of the lawyers out to the middle of the pacific ocean and knock a hole in the bottom of the boat....but that's just my opinion.
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If you have assets, it's certainly worth having.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:49 PM
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If you have assets, it's certainly worth having.
Bingo; I've amassed a little bit of assets so I have a $3m umbrella policy. Otherwise, don't bother. It's just an insurance policy on your insurance policies, but it's quite cheap.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:42 PM
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i have a 1 million umbrella policy. I think its around $700 a year.

In my case, i had to have my home and cars insured through the same carrier, then the umbrella added to both policies.
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so.....in light of the fact that we live in a lawsuit happy country, it isn't a bad idea. personally, I think the answer is to take all of the lawyers out to the middle of the pacific ocean and knock a hole in the bottom of the boat....but that's just my opinion.
Lawyer takes 1/3 of your award. 1/3 or even 1/2 of nothing is nothing. If they jury didn't simply hand out money because they want to side with the "little guy" and they assume that somebody else will cover it, these things will not take place. Don't blame the lawyer. Blame the 12 morons on the jury that set the presidence. After all, with the presidence, now I can tell you "Previous juries gave 10 million. You waste money fighting me in court, I'll settle for 8 million and nobody has to go to court.
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If you have assets, it's certainly worth having.
That's a generalization that is often valid, but not always. Many assets can't be touched - state laws and the type of asset make a huge difference in exposure.

Two such common examples - retirement funds (pensions, IRA's, etc.) and primary residences. Many states protect one or both from virtually any judgement short of tax liens.

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Random Brain Dropping Alert . . .

What might be the result of abolishing insurance?

Would the risk of loss without a "safety net" make us better drivers . . . better homeowners, in other words, less likely to be negligent?
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Random Brain Dropping Alert . . .

What might be the result of abolishing insurance?

Would the risk of loss without a "safety net" make us better drivers . . . better homeowners, in other words, less likely to be negligent?
Probably would make us more cautious. Just like the safety net of Unemployment. Seems like I heard a blurb on one of the news channels that they found a lot of people gained employment just before employment ran out. HOWEVER, as careful as you might be, something can happen. In this case, you might be taking out someone else with you and CANNOT pay.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:55 PM
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Lawyer takes 1/3 of your award. 1/3 or even 1/2 of nothing is nothing. If they jury didn't simply hand out money because they want to side with the "little guy" and they assume that somebody else will cover it, these things will not take place. Don't blame the lawyer. Blame the 12 morons on the jury that set the presidence. After all, with the presidence, now I can tell you "Previous juries gave 10 million. You waste money fighting me in court, I'll settle for 8 million and nobody has to go to court.
I guess the award number would be higher if you hit him with a benz rather than a yugo
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Umbrellas are so cheap. Why would you want to waste money insuring those?
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Umbrellas are so cheap. Why would you want to waste money insuring those?
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