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Old 08-21-2010, 09:48 AM
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Mahindra Diesel Pickup Gets EPA Approval

Now this is a surprise, given the attitude of the EPA towards diesels the past few years...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/08/breaking-mahindra-receives-epa-certification-to-sell-diesel-pickups-in-the-us.html

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Old 08-21-2010, 11:21 AM
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They needed urea injection to pass. I wonder if it has Indian injector tips ?
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Old 08-21-2010, 11:26 AM
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Could be nice. A nice small 2.2L Diesel truck on the market again. Maybe GM and Ford will come to and sell us diesel Rangers and Canyons.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:19 PM
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I will believe it when John Perez drives one up to my house personally. Until then, he is still a lying cheat. Where's my Cross Lander?
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:46 AM
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I am surprised they dont sell Muzzo's with the copy of the 60x motor like we get here.
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:43 AM
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If it can be had with a decent 4wd system I would buy it. I also like the Scorpio that should be coming next...
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:23 AM
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Too expensive, questionalble dealer network

I got some FB from a pal in OZ where Mahindra has been in the market for 2 years.

Purchase price is high for what you get
Fit finish and quality os low range
Factory support(training of techs, availability of quick FB on issues, etc) is sub par
US Dealer network is mostly dealers who DO NOT SELL TRUCKS for a living!
(Do you really want to deal with a guy who doesn't know trucks?)!
Availability of spare parts (OZ dealers have had an issue with getting spares in a reasonable period of time)
Orphan syndrome - judging from the US importer's history-do you want to own an orphan?
Crashworthyness-judging from what I saw in India/China-Nuff said!

Gimme the Brazilian or Thailand Ranger-Quad cab, long bed, either Ethanol or Diesel engine powered.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:28 AM
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If it lives up to the hype I'd consider one. The improved mileage and cargo capacity are very interesting.

If they price it right truck buyers will look past the so so interior and looks for what it offers, I would.


GM and Ford really need diesel half tons.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:29 AM
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I got some FB from a pal in OZ where Mahindra has been in the market for 2 years.

Purchase price is high for what you get
Fit finish and quality os low range
Factory support(training of techs, availability of quick FB on issues, etc) is sub par
US Dealer network is mostly dealers who DO NOT SELL TRUCKS for a living!
(Do you really want to deal with a guy who doesn't know trucks?)!
Availability of spare parts (OZ dealers have had an issue with getting spares in a reasonable period of time)
Orphan syndrome - judging from the US importer's history-do you want to own an orphan?
Crashworthyness-judging from what I saw in India/China-Nuff said!

Gimme the Brazilian or Thailand Ranger-Quad cab, long bed, either Ethanol or Diesel engine powered.

They are going to have to price them below $16k. I can get a brand new Silverado 1500 WT for $16,800 and its more truck than these.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:08 PM
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If they'd price them for what used to be the Chevy LUV/Ford Courier/Mazda B2000 market - just a small simple basic work truck, and not a mall cruiser like every other small truck has turned into - they'd have a winner on their hands.

OTOH, if the reports from OZ are correct, perhaps the EPA gave them approval because they knew it was a moot point and they'd never pass safety testing and actually go on sale. An actual alternative to those holier-than-thou hybrids? Heaven forbid!!!
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:14 PM
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Just one little question......


How safe are these things going to be in an accident?
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:16 PM
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GM and Ford really need diesel half tons.
ya got that right,but they seem to not listen to their customers and instead listen to the voices in their heads.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:44 PM
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Ford sells a Ford Ranger in the UK with a Diesel.





"The Ranger series is available with the 2.5-litre Duratorq TDCi (143 PS) diesel engine. This dependable powertrain produces responsive acceleration and optimum fuel consumption. At just 1800 rpm, a remarkably high 330 Nm of torque is produced, which makes it perfect for both towing and off-road driving. This comes with either manual transmission or an innovative 5-speed automatic transmission on the Thunder that harnesses all the power, effortlessly.

If you need even more power, the Wildtrak is available with the superb 3.0-litre Duratorq TDCi (156 PS) engine"
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:32 PM
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Ford sells a Ford Ranger in the UK with a Diesel.




There are some pretty persistant rumors that that will be the next-generation Ranger in the US, but I haven't heard anything solid and it will probably just have the ecoboost 4cyl instead of the diesel people want.

As far as LUV/Courier/D50 are concerned, they actually only cost a few hundred less than a full size pickup, and in some cases cost more. The appeal was for commuters who needed a pickup occasionally, and could trade off hauling capacity for parking space and fuel economy (although the F100 Economy of 81-82 was actually rated at 30mpg, while the 81-82 Courier was rated at 29-31).
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Old 08-22-2010, 03:46 PM
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I'd really like a little diesel truck, it would be just about perfect for 90% of what I do. Most of the time I'm running around town and get about 17 which isn't to bad, but 10-13mpg more would be nice. With the cost difference between regular and diesel that kind of increase would still make sense.

Although maintenance is a concern, I have a hard time believing a motor could be cheaper to keep going than my 4.3. Modern gas motors are damn near maintenance free, just a set of plugs every 100k miles and oil when the OLM tells you to. Plus parts are dirt cheap, and easy to change out. A diesel isn't going to be much better, especially with all that complicated emissions crap on it.

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