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Old 09-16-2010, 07:04 PM
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Everybody draw Mohammed day...

The CBS news just said the cartoonist had to quit her job and go into hiding due to death threats from Muslims because she started "Everybody draw Mohammed day".... Site
What think you of that?

Here's a good thought:

But as I have said repeatedly during the Everyone Draw Mohammed controversy, the ability to freely criticize religions is a necessary component of freedom of religion. The syllogism is simple. Freedom of religion includes the freedom to choose one’s religion. The freedom to choose one’s religion is the right to make an informed choice. The right to make an informed choice requires that everyone else is free to speak their minds on each and every faith, so you, the person choosing your faith, can weigh the pros and cons of each. Tolerance in this society cannot mean we never tell the rude truth about each other’s faiths, as we see those truths. Tolerance means you have to hear rude things said about your deity, you have to see the image of your savior defaced, and respond with nothing more than speech of your own. You have to tolerate other people’s inevitable rudeness toward your particular faith.

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Old 09-16-2010, 07:20 PM
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:42 PM
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I agree that we should all draw Mohammed.

Then we should all burn a US flag, and then should all put a crucifix in urine, etc.... If we are going to be offensive, let's offend everyone.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:58 PM
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I agree that we should all draw Mohammed.

Then we should all burn a US flag, and then should all put a crucifix in urine, etc.... If we are going to be offensive, let's offend everyone.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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You left out running unfiltered WVO in an old mercedes
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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You left out running unfiltered WVO in an old mercedes
Or using green coolant.
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Those last two are unconscionable and will bring down the wrath of Karl Benz!

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So... Is filtered WVO Ok then?
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I think I might stick my finger in The Nugness' ***** and draw a pic of Mohammed .
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:00 AM
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Isn't mohammed the guy on the Zig Zag rolling papers? I'm surprised there isn't a fatwah (or whatever the savages call it) on the Zig Zag man!!
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:29 AM
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I agree that we should all draw Mohammed.

Then we should all burn a US flag, and then should all put a crucifix in urine, etc.... If we are going to be offensive, let's offend everyone.
If you put a crucifix in urine would the FBI tell you to go in hiding because of death threats? If you stuck the star of david in a pile of pig crap wold you fear for your life? No you would not- that's a notable difference.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:44 AM
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If you put a crucifix in urine would the FBI tell you to go in hiding because of death threats? If you stuck the star of david in a pile of pig crap wold you fear for your life? No you would not- that's a notable difference.
I bet I would receive death threats if I tried to organize public flag burning in the US, for some reason that seems to set many americans off more than religious symbols. I don't know if Maplethorpe received death threats for piss christ, but I wouldn't be surprised. I agree that distorying anyone's symbols is a silly gesture.
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I bet I would receive death threats if I tried to organize public flag burning in the US, for some reason that seems to set many americans off more than religious symbols. I don't know if Maplethorpe received death threats for piss christ, but I wouldn't be surprised. I agree that distorying anyone's symbols is a silly gesture.
Did he or they have to go into hiding and if so how many have gone into hiding/were killed from Muslims vs killed/gone into hiding from all other religions combined? Take a wild guess- you, I, and the FBI all know it's a huge number.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:11 AM
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Did he or they have to go into hiding and if so how many have gone into hiding/were killed from Muslims vs killed/gone into hiding from all other religions combined? Take a wild guess- you, I, and the FBI all know it's a huge number.
If I understand the point you are attempting to make; no-one is going into hiding from "muslims" in general (my muslim friends are not trying to kill anyone), but there are people hiding from individual or groups of criminals who falsely claim to be acting under the authority of a religion.

This is roughly equivalent to claiming that the jewish people who were hiding from the nazis were hiding from the "christians," or that black people hiding from the KKK were hiding from "christians."

I know you are smart enough to understand this distinction. I also think you understand that no amount of noise from anyone is going to radicalize the vast majority of people who practice islam.

If I thought you were an idiot I wouldn't bother talking to you, but you are overstating your case. Your valid point is that there is a small population of muslim people who can be radicalized by an even smaller group with a specific political agenda. I'm sure that you (like most of us) know dozens of muslims, none of whom are about to become terrorists. Your argument loses credibility when you try to generalize it to a billion people.

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