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Old 09-29-2010, 10:50 AM
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Life magazine photographer photo essay of Hells Angels, 1965

Fantastic pictures from Bill Ray....

http://www.life.com/image/ugc1129811/in-gallery/47471/never-seen-hells-angels-1965

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Old 09-29-2010, 11:22 AM
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Nice. Thanks for the link. Gonna be a Berdoo in my next career.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:28 AM
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Cool, time-life had some very good photog's back then, and I'm a big fan of B&W street photography of that style. Amazing what those guys could do with a Nikon F-body and a roll of Tri-X. We could use a little less technology and a little more talent today.

This was before MCs degraded into just another bunch of drug dealing street gangs.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:38 AM
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Cool, time-life had some very good photog's back then, and I'm a big fan of B&W street photography of that style. Amazing what those guys could do with a Nikon F-body and a roll of Tri-X. We could use a little less technology and a little more talent today.

This was before MCs degraded into just another bunch of drug dealing street gangs.
I agree with you on the B&W stuff. Wife still does it, mostly medium format. Digital has sort of ruined the art of the photograph, in some ways.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:50 AM
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I agree with you on the B&W stuff. Wife still does it, mostly medium format. Digital has sort of ruined the art of the photograph, in some ways.
I use film (35mm) for all my B&W and play with digital for day to day stuff (I'm still not very good at digital). I keep thinking about getting myself a 4x5 field camera and trying large format (not enough time). Some folks do nice stuff with digital, but it's a completely different medium than film and I'm having trouble getting used to the look.

There is hope, my daughter is taking a high school photography class and I was surprised that they are using both film and digital (they actually have a darkroom as well as photoshop in a brand new school, I'm probably never see my old FM body again).
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:56 AM
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I use film (35mm) for all my B&W and play with digital for day to day stuff (I'm still not very good at digital). I keep thinking about getting myself a 4x5 field camera and trying large format (not enough time). Some folks do nice stuff with digital, but it's a completely different medium than film and I'm having trouble getting used to the look.

There is hope, my daughter is taking a high school photography class and I was surprised that they are using both film and digital (they actually have a darkroom as well as photoshop in a brand new school, I'm probably never see my old FM body again).
yep, the colleges here all teach film classes, some have speciality programs in B&W film. Digital is different. I would go as far to say that it is not a photograph, but an image. We have a darkroom, mostly B&W, though someone gave us a color darkroom the other day. trickier to deal with and the chemicals are expensive. Wife and friends play with art shots using expired film, read OLD 120/220 and plastic cameras. Sort of a photo subculture. For her real work, she uses a Blad 500c or a Mamiya Pro.

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Old 09-29-2010, 12:01 PM
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wow

Thanks for that link. It's a fascinating shoot. That was 45 years ago. I wonder what kind of shape they're in these days...those who lived. That's a real hard life.
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At the moment, my B&W darkroom in in pieces (maybe my daughters class will get my motivated to get it put together again). I've never had much success with color film, but I can get by with color digital in photoshop; I agree, it's a completely different thing (more like computer generated art than photography). Some of the "cheap camera" stuff is cool, I have some very old 120/220 box cameras; I'm tempted to take them out and play.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:19 PM
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At the moment, my B&W darkroom in in pieces (maybe my daughters class will get my motivated to get it put together again). I've never had much success with color film, but I can get by with color digital in photoshop; I agree, it's a completely different thing (more like computer generated art than photography). Some of the "cheap camera" stuff is cool, I have some very old 120/220 box cameras; I'm tempted to take them out and play.
do it: its fun and, well, the results can be interesting. Check out jpgmag.com, there are quite a few filmies on there and some great work.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:32 PM
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Fantastic pictures from Bill Ray....
Fantastic captions and stories as well...thanks for the link.
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Cool.....they removed their front fenders just like I did on my Schwinn in 1965.
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Ever read "Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs"? Some real immersion work there, and one of the best views into the Hell's Angels ever presented.
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Old 09-29-2010, 03:14 PM
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Ever read "Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs"? Some real immersion work there, and one of the best views into the Hell's Angels ever presented.
A great book, Hunter S Thompson's best work and one that he almost lost his life over. I read it in high school and it inspired me.

"In my own country I am in a far-off land
I am strong but have no force or power
I win all yet remain a loser
At break of day I say goodnight
When I lie down I have a great fear
Of falling."
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Old 09-29-2010, 03:24 PM
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Worth a read, if you like HST, check out "Song of the Sausage Creature" by him, published in Cycle World Magazine

http://www.pixelpete.com/bl/writings/sausage.html

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Old 09-29-2010, 03:26 PM
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A great book, Hunter S Thompson's best work and one that he almost lost his life over. I read it in high school and it inspired me.

"In my own country I am in a far-off land
I am strong but have no force or power
I win all yet remain a loser
At break of day I say goodnight
When I lie down I have a great fear
Of falling."
Never read that, I thought I had almost all his stuff. It's not available as an e-book, looks like I need to go to the bookstore.

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