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Old 11-22-2010, 10:44 AM
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Gearing up?...... or 'just defense'?

U.S. military says they've launched largest spy satellite
The Delta IV Heavy rocket is said to contain the largest ever spy satellite.

The U.S. military launched what is billed as its largest-ever spy satellite on Sunday.
A Delta IV Heavy rocket blasted off from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5:58 p.m. on Sunday, carrying what an Air Force press release called a classified payload for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO).
While the Air Force did not give further detail on the mission, Bruce Carlson, director of the NRO, said in a September 13 speech that his agency would be putting “the largest satellite in the world” aboard a Delta rocket for a launch from Cape Canaveral this fall.
The NRO “designs, builds and operates the nation's reconnaissance satellites” and services the satellite intelligence needs of the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Department, according to the agency’s website.
"This mission helps to ensure that vital NRO resources will continue to bolster our national defense," said Brig. Gen. Ed Wilson, commander of the 45th Space Wing, which was in charge of the launch.





http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/22/u-s-military-says-theyve-launched-largest-spy-satellite/

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Old 11-22-2010, 10:54 AM
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There is an entire aerospace industry that relies of a minimum level of government contracting to stay viable. If the US government completely stopped issuing these contracts, those vendors would not be around in the future. It's the same reason that the US continues to build submarines at a very slow pace, even though they don't currently have any real threat. They simply do not want to give up the capability.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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What's interesting is nowhere is there the mention of WHERE the satellite is going to be positioned.

Over the Asian Continent?

Over the European Continent?

Over N.A.?

Over S.A.?

How about Africa? (Huh???)

Inquiring minds would like to know. (Then they'll get arrested and disappear from the populace... )
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:19 AM
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Eh, probably just an updated KH-13 or perhaps it's replacement.



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Old 11-22-2010, 11:50 AM
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There is an entire aerospace industry that relies of a minimum level of government contracting to stay viable. If the US government completely stopped issuing these contracts, those vendors would not be around in the future. It's the same reason that the US continues to build submarines at a very slow pace, even though they don't currently have any real threat. They simply do not want to give up the capability.
Yep, once the skill set is lost its gone. Its worth paying a few bucks to keep it around.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:53 AM
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Yep, once the skill set is lost its gone. Its worth paying a few bucks to keep it around.
It does make sense in the long term, no country wants to give up strategic capability unless it is very sure it will never be needed again. There is also an "economic stimulus" aspect, they don't want these major contractors to go away and lay off thousands of workers.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:56 PM
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It does make sense in the long term, no country wants to give up strategic capability unless it is very sure it will never be needed again. There is also an "economic stimulus" aspect, they don't want these major contractors to go away and lay off thousands of workers.
Hence one of reason for the GM/Chrysler bailouts. While they may not currently be "stragetic" suppliers, they do have the capability if needed.
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Hence one of reason for the GM/Chrysler bailouts. While they may not currently be "stragetic" suppliers, they do have the capability if needed.

thats a very interesting point.
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Hence one of reason for the GM/Chrysler bailouts. While they may not currently be "stragetic" suppliers, they do have the capability if needed.
Capability to do what? Last I head it was to build it for $1500-2000 more than the guy across the street but at a lower quality?
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Capability to do what? Last I head it was to build it for $1500-2000 more than the guy across the street but at a lower quality?
Uaw,Uaw,Uaw,Uaw, LOL
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:58 PM
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Hence one of reason for the GM/Chrysler bailouts. While they may not currently be "stragetic" suppliers, they do have the capability if needed.
Oh yeah just what we need, more Plymouth Volare's and Saturn station wagons
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Capability to do what? Last I head it was to build it for $1500-2000 more than the guy across the street but at a lower quality?
http://m.freep.com/news.jsp?key=670683&rc=op
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The Power Survey breakthrough is all the more remarkable in a year when domestic automakers dramatically

reduced production costs by shedding debt in bankruptcy reorganizations

A little short on details. By how much did they do it? What is the comparison with the competition? Can they keep it up for any length of time?

Lets not forget that they got gifts from the govt that others didn't get via loans and bankruptcy on some of those loans. At least with respect to Chrysler and GM.
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The Power Survey breakthrough is all the more remarkable in a year when domestic automakers dramatically

reduced production costs by shedding debt in bankruptcy reorganizations

A little short on details. By how much did they do it? What is the comparison with the competition? Can they keep it up for any length of time?

Lets not forget that they got gifts from the govt that others didn't get via loans and bankruptcy on some of those loans. At least with respect to Chrysler and GM.
I understand, it's been proven many times facts are not your strong point.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:31 PM
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I understand, it's been proven many times facts are not your strong point.
Since you are so good, lets see YOUR facts. That after a massive infusion of money and bankruptcy you made headway. Big whoopie. Lets see your fact on how they will be able to do it for the next 10 years.

Care to answer the question of how the production costs are with respect to the competition, since you are so strong with facts then?

BTW, I'm sure you realize it but it bears repeating. Doing well this year is insignificant. Doing well for 10 more years and we can call it a glimmer of hope. Doing well today with money you begged from the govt (less Ford) doesn't impress me. Lets see how you keep it up or if you will fall back into the same old circle. After all, your competition isn't stagnant.

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