Divorce my wife, have her ask for no alimony and then become a welfare recipient. Four families live on my block with the gov paying the rent/utilities for single mothers who choose to have at least 5 kids, they get "free" money for food in food stamps and at school, have a "free" cell phone and, well the list just does not stop. I'm hard pressed to pay the mortgage and bills and they live nearly the same life and kids go to the same schools while paying nothing. I even have to buy the school supplies for them- directly- (school supplies are to be bought and brought to school to share with everyone in the class- if you cannot afford to buy them, then those that can are required to share their supplies). I could buy a house and rent it to her and we'd live together as a family but have the govt pay for most everything instead of me doing it. Do you have a good reason other than guilt I shouldn't do this? Our family would live a much better life with the money we'd save and be able to spend on shoes and chess matches and educational items for my boys.

It is indeed cheaper to live as singles instead of married.

A famous Texan Democrat made all that possible - Lyndon Baines Johnson, with his Great (Giveaway) Society written into law in the Summer of 1965. $44 Trillion dollars later flushed down a rathole, here we are.

I couldn't do it if I had children to set an example for though. Or so I say as a bachelor.

Keep the Faith.

The reason you cannot do this is simple:

You are a man with some integrity and a man with integrity cannot behave like a DB.

Simple as that.

Well you could maintain your integrity and not do it... or you could do it, save a fair amount of money and live a more comfortable life using loop holes. Those women with 5 children do it. If you truly use the extra money to provide a better life for your kids, then I would not think any less of you if I knew you.

Why do you need to be the one to pay for everything they have?

Unfortunately, this is probably some sort of fraud... may be quite consequential...

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2006 BMW M5 "Heidi" @ 109,000 miles
2005 MBZ C55 AMG "Lorelai" @ 165,000 miles
1991 MBZ 300E "Benzachino II" @ 165,000 miles
1990 MBZ 500SL "Shoshanna" @ 118,000 miles

(On the hunt for a good used M103 engine as of 6/10/23, PM me if you have one to sell!)

The equation doesn't add up, trust me.

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I have seen many a man with integrity and family getting hit hard. It's no fun to exist at the mercy of government handouts.

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I can't tell you why you shouldn't, but I can tell you why you won't- you have pride and integrity and your only wish is to have an opportunity to succeed, not a guarantee of "equality" at someone elses expense. I know exactly how you feel though about being penalized for playing by the rules. I have the same thoughts, and have come to this conclusion- In the end the only person you have to answer to is yourself, so even if nobody knows you are scamming the system , you do. Some people (too many in my opinion) are able to live with themselves, and others, like yourself, are decent human beings. I'm sure you already know all this, but maybe it helps to hear others reaffirm it for you. The best thing I know to do is participate as little as possible in enabling those who have no integrity, and look out for your own kind.

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1984 300TD 1981 240D

You won't do it because it is not the right thing to do.

Those programs are designed for people who need them. Although you feel you are struggling you don't actually need them. Heck we all feel we are struggling.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Stupid, stupid self-respect and integrity.

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1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15
'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)

Do it. It keeps the economy running. Immediate beneficiaries include grocery stores, slumlords, take out and fast food restaurants, processed food manufacturers, municipal bus services, and yours truly, who makes a small portion of his money selling food in a can. See I really don't mind as long as it flows from their wallet into mine.

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You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows - Robert A. Zimmerman

If your balls were as big as your mouth you would just do it and live the "good" life instead of just being a whiner. Maybe you should move to a better heighborhood.

Man that is not nice.

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You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows - Robert A. Zimmerman

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I moved to the best neighborhood I could afford, and now I'm barely able to afford life as it is. If I did what I proposed I'd be able to move into a better neighborhood I think, and I'd be the DB sucking off others. But in return my kids could have a more/better education and I'd be able to afford the things I think as a good father they need to have for a better life in the long run. Instead I'm (and my family) getting the skinned knees because someone else fell down, repeatedly.

Speaking of DBs, it is best to ignore comments that are not helpful nor productive.