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MTUpower 02-13-2011 04:09 PM

I stopped reading at page four... people who do not believe in evolution crack me up, but not enough to continue reading.

kerry 02-13-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2660879)
Many Christians think that being able to say that an eternal God created everything is somehow vastly different from the naturalist saying that the universe has always been.
In my mind, they are the same. No one can argue back to a time before there was whatever "beginning" they choose.

With one MAJOR difference. The theist traces the universe back to mind (a personal mind, no less for most theists) whereas the non-theist traces it back to matter.
The role that the human mind plays in those two different universes couldn't be more different. One says the human mind was the goal of the whole process, other other says it is an accidental byproduct of non-mental change.

LaRondo 02-13-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Swede (Post 2657867)

That's what Facebook does to you. It's the "evolution of decaying intelligence". :D

MS Fowler 02-13-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dropnosky (Post 2660992)
questions for intelligent design people. Humans have tailbones, numerous instances of humans being born with tails has also been recorded. Now, if this is not a clear indication of what must have been in the distant past, what can it be?

Isn't this exactly the same argument in reverse as posed by Honus, above.

Botnst 02-13-2011 07:01 PM

What caused the Big Bang?

Ara T. 02-13-2011 07:07 PM

Although we don't have the science to explain that, I am still reluctant to believe an invisble, all knowing, anthropomorphic being in the sky caused it.

Botnst 02-13-2011 07:20 PM

^^^ Why must it be a binary decision?

kerry 02-13-2011 07:35 PM

No real reason for the binary one. The anthropomorphic answer can be lined up right alongside the idea that the universe was created by a giant cockroach.

tbomachines 02-13-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2661210)
What caused the Big Bang?

Lots of work has been poured into that question
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0509137

Botnst 02-13-2011 09:58 PM

I am aware of that and can summarize it thus: "I dunno".

Botnst 02-13-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2661229)
No real reason for the binary one. The anthropomorphic answer can be lined up right alongside the idea that the universe was created by a giant cockroach.

Again, you suppose that the alternatives must be something imaginable. Why?

Honus 02-13-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2661310)
I am aware of that and can summarize it thus: "I dunno".

The version I read was, "I dunno and neither do you. In fact the whole thing is impossible, any sane person can see that."

kerry 02-13-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2661312)
Again, you suppose that the alternatives must be something imaginable. Why?


I just happened to imagine one. I never said the alternatives had to be imaginable.

Botnst 02-13-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus (Post 2661314)
The version I read was, "I dunno and neither do you. In fact the whole thing is impossible, any sane person can see that."

You, me and Doug Adams.

Honus 02-14-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2661328)
...Doug Adams.

That frood really knew where his towel was.


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