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Old 03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
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I think we should be ashamed

At the culture of our society

Look at Katrina:
First these people had plenty of warning and were told to get out.
Much of it was a when not an if (MY opinion), man made.
Looting.
Violence.
People screaming at the government to help HELP help.

Look at Japan:
Very little warning.
OK also probably a when not an if too, but not man made.
No looting.
People peacefully standing in line at stores to get supplies.
People setup camps on their own, work together and continue on.
People already cleaning up their homes (w/o power or water).
Even some road they showed on the news, ripped open like a zipper, fixed in 6days (They said 3 on Nitely News). We can't get a pothole fixed in a month under the best of circumstances, this was rebuilt in the worst of circumstances.
http://jennymartinphotography.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/japan-repairs-road-in-just-6-days/

I don't know if this says more about what America has become or what a society really can / should be like.

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Old 03-24-2011, 08:39 PM
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Japan is a more homogeneous society.
America suffers from generations of racism, and race baiters as well as class envy pitting group against group, race against race and class against class--all for political advantage.

You can't tell generations of poor folk that "the MAN" owes them and not expect them to react and take what they feel they are entitled to when the opportunity presents itself.
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:43 PM
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America's insatiable appetite for drugs is the catalyst.
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In case you haven't noticed, but Japanese culture is quite different from most places in the world. Their demeanor and poise comes at a price, often reflected in ways westerners may not understand.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:21 PM
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Its a totaly different culture, your talking about a society that went from the 15th century to the 21st in 50 years. Japan is a very unique society.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:28 PM
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At the culture of our society

Look at Katrina:
First these people had plenty of warning and were told to get out.
Most of those who had cars and money to check into a hotel inland did leave.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:35 PM
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:38 PM
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I am ashamed of nothing!
Not even what you did for that Klondike bar?
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Not even what you did for that Klondike bar?
dude, I sent you hush money!
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:44 PM
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You present a great question. Is the Japanese response a tribute to their basic culture or is it due to the fact that they have seen worse many times before.

If I am not mistaken in the 1920's Japan suffered an earthquake that killed more than 100,000 people. During WW2, besides Hiroshima and Nagasaki, fire bombings of Tokyo caused more than 100,000 deaths in one day and a typhoon caused almost as much loss. The Japanese proverb I recall being related to the typhoon is "while crying, stung by a bee in the face."

Japan has had very few if any riots or acts of mass civil disobedience, despite a great economic collapse in 1930, severe conditions in 1944 and 1945, and the domestic conditions since 1990 due to a population decrease.

In contrast, many American cities can have riots for minor reasons. Los Angeles goes berzerk for no reason. Detroit, Boston, Chicago have riots because their sports teams win championships. It makes me proud to live in San Antonio. Four NBA championships: no riots.

Perhaps it boils down to the fact that Japan is very homogeneous. There are no others to resent and everyone realizes that in the long run they are all on the same team.

Wouldn't it be great if everyone in the US thought we Americans were all on the same team and worked towards helping everyone get ahead instead of fostering racial and religious division for personal gain?
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:26 PM
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Wouldn't it be great if everyone in the US thought we Americans were all on the same team and worked towards helping everyone get ahead instead of fostering racial and religious division for personal gain?
I enjoyed your response in total, but I guess the quote he says it all.

As a side note, Micheal Milken was on the other day, he is doing a lot of educational charity work.

He brought up an interesting point, I believe he was refering to Japan, but it could have been another country.
Families there spend approx 15% of their income on tutoring, special education etc (above the normal classroom) for their children, we spend 2%. But we do spend an extra 20% of our income buying a bigger house.

I guess I'm seeing America in decline, I know it is ineviatable, all powerful civilizations crash eventually. But it's interesting/depressing to see it happening.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:41 PM
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I suspect Japan might be a lot like Denmark.

Homogenous to a high degree and I suspect pretty much all are middle class.? No disenfranchised permanent poverty class.?

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Not having been there I can only guess that their culture is very homogeneous as others have said. They further reduce class divisions by minimizing the income gap. Their executives might make 5-10x the average salary as opposed to the 100x that our big bankers and corporate bosses get. When you eliminate all the social and class status fluff, then everyone gets down to business. Right now they have hundred of bulldozers clearing away debris, and rebuilding to be even stronger than before. They are all in it together.

For being such a big player in global trade, I was also surprised to see that the majority of people being interviewed spoke no English.
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Sooner or later we will have a very large quake here in California, I suspect the reactions and behavior of Californiains will be somewhat different.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:08 AM
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Sooner or later we will have a very large quake here in California, I suspect the reactions and behavior of Californiains will be somewhat different.
Chances are they might interrupt their picking on Muslims. But then again, you never know, they may come up with the glorious idea to even blame it on them.

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