Interesting article on CNN on the way we are still fighting the Civil War 150 years later. Draws many parallells between then and now.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/08/civil.war.today/index.html?hpt=C2

- Peter.

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I used to say that the Tenth Amendment died on April 9, 1865. Now it seems it was only in a coma.

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Here is South Carolina, where it all started, they are celebrating like it was a good thing that so many Americans died during the struggle.

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Winners write the history, losers write the footnotes.

Not many well preserved battlefields in the south--at least not as well preserved at Antietam and Gettysburg. Fredericksburg is partially preserved, but many if the sites between there and the Wilderness are gone.
I hope the Park service has changed their rules regarding cutting of trees. because of that rule, the sight lines at Petersburg were non-existent.

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I think for some there exists a belief that upon Lee's surrender the Federal and State constitutions were automatically restored to their former status. That belief is in question.

We know from history that after the war, the Southern states were ORDERED to rewrite their constitutions. Virginia was made Military District Number One and Military law was enforced at the point of a bayonet. Texas attempted to rewrite it's constitution numerous times and then finally GAVE UP.

When the people of the Southern states were ORDERED to rewrite their constitution (here's a pen, now write OR ELSE), the state governments ceased being a "VOLUNTARY government of the people by the people and for the people". It became a "take it OUR way or ELSE" type of deal.

In the federal law books, there are foot notes which state that when the thirteen states seceded the "Congress of the United States" went Sine Die (without day) due to the fact that a date was NEVER set to reconvene. Three days later, Lincoln formed a NEW military government to deal with those down and nasty southerners.

Things haven't been the same since.

In a strange way..this sounds like Gaddafi's Libya.

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well, as long as we remember that the south seceded only to further the cause of states' rights, then everyone will be happy.

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Remember the Rodney King incident? Remember when he said, "Why can't we all just get along??". That's the problem of the ages, we can't all just get along and we can't all be happy.

The South seceded because they weren't happy with the way things were going. The North made the decision to force the South back into doing things their way. As a result, more men died in the War between the States than ALL other wars combined (Korea, Vietnam, WWI, WWII).

That's a lot of dead bodies and over what? My way or the highway? The south even sent a committee to the White House to try and negotiate peace with Lincoln before the war broke out. He refused to talk with them.

Reminds of a lawyer I once did battle with whom I met with PRIOR to trial to try and negotiate a peace settlement. He looked straight at me and my friend and blurted, "Let's Get it On BOYS!!!".

That was Lincoln's attitude, itching to get it on and show those down and nasty southerners a thing or two.

Much of that article drew an unpleasant correlation between the religious fundamentalism of today, and that which was extant before the civil war, suggesting that much of the cause of the war was the inherent unsuitability of the American style of governence to the ideologically closed minded extremeties of such.

- Peter.

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It appears that many wars are fought over religious intolerance. My God is better than your God. Or, my philosophy is better than your philosophy therefore you must die. Why can't we all agree to disagree?

What are Y'all talking About ?

It's Over?

When?

Less than Ten years ago I found a Klan Shield ,just like the ones in the Movie
"Oh Brother Where Art Thou?" in an Attic of a house built in 1970.
'Owner musta been one of those "Knights of the White Camellia".

Up until last year,the leader of the Georgia State Senate,was David Duke's
First Cousin.

I wonder how many more generations will be Plagued with The Bigotry and
Hatred (That had nothing to do with the cause of the Civil War) ?

Listening to the Dali Lama on the Radio the other day...
REALLY makes Politicians,everywhere, sound like the Idiots they are.

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There were about 600,000 KIA in the Civil War. That is a heavy price to pay for keeping the Union intact. Now here's a thought experiment: What would have happened if the south had been allowed to secede? Would there still be two countries in place of the one we have? How would this have affected the outcome of the first and second World Wars?

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I think it was Faulkner who said..."In the South, the past is not forgotten....The past is not even the past".

It was not meant to be funny and it is still true, and we have good evidence of it right here.

Folks today like to go on and on and say how it was not about slavery and it was all about states rights. Many, perhaps even most of the men fighting believed that too at the time. They did not fight for the rich slave owners, they fought to protect their homes.

But make no mistake about it. The civil war was fought because of slavery.

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It became a war aganist slavery in 1864 when Lincoln finally got around to proclaiming (by edict, not congressional action) that slaves were free.

But the stage was set at the founding of the United States when the southern states' representatives to the constitutional convention entered a 'gentleman's agreement' to end slavery in 20 years. They reneged (except for George Washington) and thereby set a marker for the future misery and death.