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Old 04-20-2011, 04:51 PM
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Coburn defies Norquist

Norquist views rolling back the subsidy on ethanol producers as a tax increase. A handful of Senators (R) led by Coburn are poised to push back a bit. Not sure if any D Senators ever signed Norquist's 'drown it in the bathtub' pledge.

Does Norquist perhaps have more power than an unelected guy ought to?

This piece by O'Donnell starts out slow (as his usually do) but there's some good stuff later:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42672317#42672317

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Old 04-20-2011, 05:24 PM
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Good stuff!

Funny thing is how people in this country still think we are so free and everything is determined by "natural cycles".

Here is another one. Showing rather nicely how GE doesn't pay taxes, hands down.

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/25/6346464-lawrence-rewrites-ges-tax-return
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:47 PM
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Coburn has made another pledge and that is to not run again when his current term is up. Therefore he needs money from no one (his family has millions of dollars) and he needs endorsements from no one. Grover is making threats against him with nothing to back them up.

Coburn did all the right stuff to get elected last November. He put holds on over 250 bills and therefore shut-down the Senate while he hoped it would swing Republicans after the elections. After he was re-elected he told most of his handlers to take a hike and has since then been doing what he wants to.

Oklahoma, which is where he is from, produces a lot of oil and gas and very little corn. Oklahoma also has some very clean air as there is little industry here outside of Tulsa and OKC. Gas without E is everywhere and normally at the same cost as E gas.

It looks as if he is trying to do something for the US as a whole and does not want to be remember as a Republican Stooge. I don't know him myself, but people who do predicted this would happen if he was re-elected.

Hopefully others will follow his lead and start to think for themselves.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:14 PM
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I haven't alwsays been wild about him but he does seem to have an independent streak.

In a similar vein, O'Donnell asked Mitch Daniels a few weeks back if he would do what every other R candidate does, that is, sign Norquist's pledge to never raise taxes of any kind.

Daniels said words to the effect that he would take the pledge to serve the American people on the west steps of the Capitol and no other. That's the day I began to like the guy.
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I knew him when I worked in DC (early 90's). He go around to various GOP-related offices with his man-purse pamphleteering for what ever tax issue he was opposed to. Kind of an odd guy, but interesting nonetheless. He always hit on this gal in our office, but to no avail. I nailed her first. lol
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Hopefully others will follow his lead and start to think for themselves.
Good luck on that one.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
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He always hit on this gal in our office, but to no avail. I nailed her first. lol
I understand this is important to you.
It's not so much about the guy who eventually makes a name for himself. It's about the fact that billions after billions are siphoned off the American people by a few, who apparently, have sufficient access to the corridors of power.
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I knew him when I worked in DC (early 90's). He go around to various GOP-related offices with his man-purse pamphleteering for what ever tax issue he was opposed to. Kind of an odd guy, but interesting nonetheless. He always hit on this gal in our office, but to no avail. I nailed her first. lol
Talking about Norquist, no doubt.
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Yeah, Norquist.
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Dude gives me the screaming willies. He's like a younger, slightly better looking version of Dick Cheney, with that same cold, calculating face action.

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He was the nerd who never got laid. He pestered this woman and creeped her out pretty bad.

I appreciated the fact that he was grassroots and actually did something (at that time). A lot of folks sat around on their fat pompous asses.

He ended up marrying a Muslim woman iirc. Not what I would have expected.
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Wow. Fits him somehow, the first part I mean.
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Norquist views rolling back the subsidy on ethanol producers as a tax increase. A handful of Senators (R) led by Coburn are poised to push back a bit. Not sure if any D Senators ever signed Norquist's 'drown it in the bathtub' pledge.

Does Norquist perhaps have more power than an unelected guy ought to?

This piece by O'Donnell starts out slow (as his usually do) but there's some good stuff later:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42672317#42672317

Many people like him on all sides of the issues. I fail to see what he's doing that is so disturbing.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:32 AM
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Dude gives me the screaming willies. He's like a younger, slightly better looking version of Dick Cheney, with that same cold, calculating face action.

And this qualifies as thought.

I'll tell you thing, if I needed someone to run a very difficult project requiring the overcoming of many obstacles a man like Dick Cheney would be my choice.

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