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chilcutt 05-09-2011 08:40 PM

Osama bin Laden is gone
 
Do you feel any safer now?

Craig 05-09-2011 08:56 PM

I never felt unsafe. I just rode my motorcycle to home depot to buy some light bulbs; that was a much bigger risk than anything related to terrorists. Getting rid of OBL was a necessary political response.

JohnM. 05-09-2011 09:00 PM

Better late than never, is the only way I can sum it up. ;) Past that.....

t walgamuth 05-09-2011 09:15 PM

No, but I am glad he is gone.

He clearly had some impressive leadership ability and ideas. (Misguided of course).

kerry 05-09-2011 09:33 PM

No. It might have been better for the West that he die of kidney failure rather than as a martyr or from an 'unknown sickness'.

Craig 05-09-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2714728)
No. It might have been better for the West that he die of kidney failure rather than as a martyr or from an 'unknown sickness'.

The US only had three basic choices:

Capture him alive and have a long public trial with plenty of discussions of "intelligence sources";

Have him "disappear" and risk being perceived as ineffectual;

Assassinate him and risk creating a martyr.

chilcutt 05-09-2011 09:58 PM

I recall an old saying..'The closer they were to Caesar..the greater their fear'.

I am sure his underlings have to be wondering...'Who's next'

Hatterasguy 05-09-2011 10:02 PM

Hopefully with the intel we gathered we can give a few other people in his organization some 9mm sleeping pills.

kerry 05-09-2011 10:08 PM

Were they waiting for the release of the CIA agent who shot the people in the street before going after Bin Laden. Wonder if those killings were related to Bin Laden?

Craig 05-09-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2714746)
Were they waiting for the release of the CIA agent who shot the people in the street before going after Bin Laden. Wonder if those killings were related to Bin Laden?

I doubt that we will ever find out.

chilcutt 05-09-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2714740)
Hopefully with the intel we gathered we can give a few other people in his organization some 9mm sleeping pills.

Just remember that the U.S./ Western allies will need the assistance from the Muslim world to clean out the remaining nest.

And that dealing with them is sometimes very convoluted and co$tly, to say the least.

So...be patient .

chilcutt 05-09-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2714746)
Were they waiting for the release of the CIA agent who shot the people in the street before going after Bin Laden. Wonder if those killings were related to Bin Laden?

@ Kerry...you are very keyed-in ,in terms of Islam.

From my experiances dealing with Muslims...a simple 'Hey look, we are very sorry about some of the recent events, We are extending an olive branch ,in hopes that from this point forward, our relationship can take a better turn'...goes a long way in the healing process, and further perpetuates co-operation.

This may be difficult for some Americans to wrap their heads around....but thats the way it is.

Botnst 05-09-2011 10:47 PM

Bin Laden became superfluous as an actual threat shortly after 9/11. Even so, I'm glad that rock is removed from my shoe.

Pakistan is such a political basket case that I doubt anything the USA does (or doesn't) do will be useful. The military and ISI are corrupt and the political leadership, ineffective. The people don't trust any of them and they distrust each other along ethnic, sectarian, and tribal lines.

In the USA we think 3,000 murdered citizens is a cause for war, and I agree with that. It is good to keep in mind that more than 30,000 Pakistanis have died in a large part, due to the same violent people.

B

MTI 05-09-2011 11:51 PM

Perhaps Muslims feel safer, since they were killed more frequently by the forces of OBL.

kerry 05-10-2011 12:07 AM

I haven't personally met any Muslims who supported OBL and I've met my fair share of Muslims since 9/11. Has anyone here met any Muslim supporters of OBL?

mgburg 05-10-2011 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2714813)
I haven't personally met any Muslims who supported OBL and I've met my fair share of Muslims since 9/11. Has anyone here met any Muslim supporters of OBL?

If I met any Muslim supporters of OBL, I wouldn't know.

I'm sure they're still in their "sleeper cell" mode...soooooooooooo, how do you tell? :confused: :rolleyes:

layback40 05-10-2011 01:59 AM

I doubt in most developed parts of the world that his close supporters would wish to be identified. Sympathizer may be a better term. I have met many middle eastern people who are very strongly anti American. There may well be some that would have a soft spot for Mr Fish Food.

engatwork 05-10-2011 06:46 AM

Wonder if they have as many choices for a replacement as we do in regards to the D's and R's?

Botnst 05-10-2011 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by engatwork (Post 2714912)
Wonder if they have as many choices for a replacement as we do in regards to the D's and R's?

And of equal quality, too!

layback40 05-10-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2714916)
And of equal quality, too!

Probably far more honest, dedicated to the cause & reliable than some? ;)

LaRondo 05-10-2011 01:14 PM

Herbal 'Viagra' found in medicine cabinet at bin Laden's Pakistani compound



By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 8:09 AM on 9th May 2011



Osama Bin Laden was taking herbal Viagra when he was living in his Pakistani compound.
The health of the tall, thin terror leader was the subject of much speculation in the last few years.
Some in intelligence circles even believed he was having kidney dialysis treatment.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...50_468x286.jpg 'Not weak or frail': 54-year-old bin Laden's wife Amal, 29, said he was in fairly good shape

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...60_233x341.jpg Sexual boost: Avena is a herbal remedy used to increase desire

But now evidence pulled from the medicine cabinet in his hideout, and interviews with his young wife in the Pakistani media, appear to show bin Laden, 54, was not in bad shape.
They also show his fondness for herbal remedies.
NBC News got hold a list of medications found in the Pakistani compound. None are used to treat long-term chronic illness.
There were drugs to treat high blood pressure, ulcers, shingles, nerve pain and common childrens' complaints.
They also found Avena syrup, an extract of wild oats that is marketed as a natural impotence cure.
Aside from its use to increase sexual desire and potency, Avena syrup is also used as an artificial sweetener often used for a sour stomach.
'The caution is, we don’t know who used what,” said Cynthia Reilly, a pharmacist and director of practice development for the American Society of Health System Pharmacists. 'And we know that in the United States, 40 percent of medication use is off label,” meaning it is used to treat conditions for which it has not been approved.
Bin Laden's youngest widow Amal, 29, told Pakistani investigators: 'He was neither weak nor frail.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...99_468x286.jpg Cocktail of potions: Some of the mediciations in bin Laden's home. The Avena syrup is in the blue box

'He believed in his own medication.'


According to Pakistan's Dawn newspaper, Amal, a Yemeni national who was only 17 when she wed bin Laden, said he had recovered fully from two kidney surgeries a decade ago.
The Saudis are thought to have hired an assassin to poison Bin Laden in 1999 and the toxin gave him kidney failure.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...27_468x286.jpg Heavily guarded: Pakistani police standing guard at the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad

Amal said he was not on dialysis and helped treat himself by eating a lot of watermelons.
She told officials that she and Bin Laden had just gone to bed and had switched off the lights when they heard the first gunshots of the 1am Navy SEALs raid.
Before Bin Laden could reach for his AK-47, the commandos had burst in and shot him, she said.
Amal, who was bin Laden's fifth wife, was shot in the leg in the raid.
She has told investigators that neither she and nor bin Laden left the compound in the last five years, both living like virtual prisoners.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...94_468x286.jpg

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384972/Osama-Bin-Laden-Herbal-Viagra-medicine-cabinet.html#ixzz1LyFIkXO2

Botnst 05-10-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layback40 (Post 2714943)
Probably far more honest, dedicated to the cause & reliable than some? ;)

Okay, I'll give you that.

Damn.

Botnst 05-10-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaRondo (Post 2715075)
Herbal 'Viagra' found in medicine cabinet at bin Laden's Pakistani compound



By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 8:09 AM on 9th May 2011



Osama Bin Laden was taking herbal Viagra when he was living in his Pakistani compound.
The health of the tall, thin terror leader was the subject of much speculation in the last few years.
Some in intelligence circles even believed he was having kidney dialysis treatment.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...50_468x286.jpg 'Not weak or frail': 54-year-old bin Laden's wife Amal, 29, said he was in fairly good shape

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...60_233x341.jpg Sexual boost: Avena is a herbal remedy used to increase desire

But now evidence pulled from the medicine cabinet in his hideout, and interviews with his young wife in the Pakistani media, appear to show bin Laden, 54, was not in bad shape.
They also show his fondness for herbal remedies.
NBC News got hold a list of medications found in the Pakistani compound. None are used to treat long-term chronic illness.
There were drugs to treat high blood pressure, ulcers, shingles, nerve pain and common childrens' complaints.
They also found Avena syrup, an extract of wild oats that is marketed as a natural impotence cure.
Aside from its use to increase sexual desire and potency, Avena syrup is also used as an artificial sweetener often used for a sour stomach.
'The caution is, we don’t know who used what,” said Cynthia Reilly, a pharmacist and director of practice development for the American Society of Health System Pharmacists. 'And we know that in the United States, 40 percent of medication use is off label,” meaning it is used to treat conditions for which it has not been approved.
Bin Laden's youngest widow Amal, 29, told Pakistani investigators: 'He was neither weak nor frail.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...99_468x286.jpg Cocktail of potions: Some of the mediciations in bin Laden's home. The Avena syrup is in the blue box

'He believed in his own medication.'


According to Pakistan's Dawn newspaper, Amal, a Yemeni national who was only 17 when she wed bin Laden, said he had recovered fully from two kidney surgeries a decade ago.
The Saudis are thought to have hired an assassin to poison Bin Laden in 1999 and the toxin gave him kidney failure.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...27_468x286.jpg Heavily guarded: Pakistani police standing guard at the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad

Amal said he was not on dialysis and helped treat himself by eating a lot of watermelons.
She told officials that she and Bin Laden had just gone to bed and had switched off the lights when they heard the first gunshots of the 1am Navy SEALs raid.
Before Bin Laden could reach for his AK-47, the commandos had burst in and shot him, she said.
Amal, who was bin Laden's fifth wife, was shot in the leg in the raid.
She has told investigators that neither she and nor bin Laden left the compound in the last five years, both living like virtual prisoners.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...94_468x286.jpg

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384972/Osama-Bin-Laden-Herbal-Viagra-medicine-cabinet.html#ixzz1LyFIkXO2

Beware the disinformation campaign to undermine Bin laden's mythology.

Craig 05-10-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2715080)
Beware the disinformation campaign to undermine Bin laden's mythology.

That may actually be true. We will know for sure if they "discover" a stash of gay porn under his bed.

cmac2012 05-10-2011 03:18 PM

Gotta feel for that healthy looking young woman, obligated to receive that sick looking puke. Looked pretty awful in that video with the dyed beard.

chilcutt 05-11-2011 08:03 AM

Well, he dont need anymore of that there horselegg juice now.....


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