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Old 07-27-2011, 10:59 AM
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Ape Hangers are extra tall handlebars. Choppers have elongated frames and/or forks, and may or may not have ape hangers.

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Old 07-27-2011, 11:05 AM
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they do not look safe
If you ponder it very long, NO motorcycle looks safe: only two wheels, rider sits on or by the gas tank and straddles the engine....
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:08 AM
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I think it would be fun to not wash my arm pits for a couple of weeks and ride one of those ape handle choppers around town.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:27 AM
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I did not write in an angry manner, hence your assessment that my post was a "rant" is uneducated. Not at all unlike my assumption that a bike's fork defines whether or not it is a chopper. The original post WAS being serious, like I said. Simple curiosity about the motivation behind the "look." I see now that it is purely a style element, probably in a similar vein with lowered/jacked up cars.

Yes I have ridden a bike (crotch rocket), but only briefly, and never got into the culture. I appreciate all the informative posts here.
I apologize for calling it a "rant" However, it is still misleading.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:30 AM
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Ape Hangers are extra tall handlebars. Choppers have elongated frames and/or forks, and may or may not have ape hangers.

Ape Hangers


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"chopper" has a very loose definition. Orginal "choppers" were called that because people used to "chop" pieces off the bike. Modifications usually included stretching the frame.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:33 AM
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I had a hard tail Shovelhead bar hopper type bike once upon a time (no apes: I prefer low bars) and I rode it all over the place, Daytona from Houston, Sturgis, west coast etc. It is not as comfortable as my Goose was, but it didnt cripple me.

let me guess, back when you were 20 something? I could never ride an apehanger hard tail for any distance no way no how, way too many pot holes in Cincy for that. anyway, I was just talking about the guys I know, all with backs gone from long hours and more show than go Harleys
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:36 AM
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let me guess, back when you were 20 something? I could never ride an apehanger hard tail for any distance no way no how, way too many pot holes in Cincy for that. anyway, I was just talking about the guys I know, all with backs gone from long hours and more show than go Harleys
I have never met a Harley that was more go than show.
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I have never met a Harley that was more go than show.
you haven't looked hard, they are out there, but it takes serious cash.
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let me guess, back when you were 20 something? I could never ride an apehanger hard tail for any distance no way no how, way too many pot holes in Cincy for that. anyway, I was just talking about the guys I know, all with backs gone from long hours and more show than go Harleys
I was young, in my twenties. Rode someone else's in my early 40's not as much fun, but still doable. There are better suspension methods than your own back....
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:55 AM
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you haven't looked hard, they are out there, but it takes serious cash.
Yes, I have.
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"chopper" has a very loose definition. Orginal "choppers" were called that because people used to "chop" pieces off the bike. Modifications usually included stretching the frame.
That's not my understanding of why they were called choppers. I believe they were called choppers because the frame was chopped and re-welded in a fashion that changed the angle of the steering axis, to tilt it back so that it could accommodate the longer forks and still keep the frame parallel to the roadway.

And why are you so annoyed by the original post? I don't find it misleading at all.
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:23 PM
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That's not my understanding of why they were called choppers. I believe they were called choppers because the frame was chopped and re-welded in a fashion that changed the angle of the steering axis, to tilt it back so that it could accommodate the longer forks and still keep the frame parallel to the roadway.

And why are you so annoyed by the original post? I don't find it misleading at all.
It is 6 of one and half-dozen of the other. But do you think servicemen coming back from WWII all had welders to weld frames together? Not all choppers had modified necks. I am sure some of them did but a majority of them just started chopping stock parts off the bike. Hence the term, chopper.

I never said I was annoyed. The title is misleading.

The title of the thread is "chopper forks"
Then the author talks about apehanger handlebars in the original post.
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...I never said I was annoyed. The title is misleading.

The title of the thread is "chopper forks"
Then the author talks about apehanger handlebars in the original post.
Seems like a picky complaint. I can't speak for others, but the title didn't mislead me.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:15 PM
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Seems like a picky complaint. I can't speak for others, but the title didn't mislead me.
Apologies again, but I am 37 and have owned motorcycles since I was 6. I am motorcycle picky.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:23 AM
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As noted, it's an appearance thing. The riding position on a contemporary "chopper" (think reality TV shows) is low bars, arms forward, legs forward. It bends the entire body into a big "C" shape. Not comfortable for any distance, at least for us old and inflexible guys.

Look at the size of the fuel tank on the photos SwampYank posted - see how small it is on the modern, low bar chopper? These bikes frequently have an operating range of less than 100 miles. They ain't made for going very far. Distance riders favor mounts like the goldwing, big Harley baggers, or BMW sport-tourers - all of which have very different ergonomics than these bikes.

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