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spdrun 08-02-2011 05:55 PM

Swiss Franc, bubble or buy?
 
The Franc has had a run from 1.17 Francs per dollar to 0.765(!) in the past year. Assuming that one can open an account denominated in such, is there still time to buy or is this a bubble that will burn the buyer? Swiss natl bank is talking about devaluing due to the strong franc hurting their economy, but when will that happen and how?

sjh 08-02-2011 06:40 PM

Do we have arbitrage people on this board?

sjh 08-02-2011 09:46 PM

I guess not.

Hatterasguy 08-02-2011 10:18 PM

Looks like the money has already been made.

sjh 08-02-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2762949)
Looks like the money has already been made.

Funny how it works out that way.

kknudson 08-02-2011 10:59 PM

Trade Forex, many brokerages offer it.
There are stocks that track forex, FXE (Ryder Trust) is Dollar vs Euro, I don't know if there is one using the Swiss Franc(CHF).
Can be VERY risky, can be very rewarding, can be very tiring.

I trade FX, 5 days a week, sometimes close to 24 hours a day.

But I don't trade the Swiss Franc generally, I usually trade the Euro and/or the Yen vs the Dollar.
Leverage is high, moves can be massive in a blink you can be wiped out or make a killing. So you have to manage the risk carefully.

RE the Swiss Franc CHF is the FX symbol, it has been a fairly orderly decline, much smother than the USD/Eur which has had it's ups and down.

No opinion on it personally, I tend to day trade.

sjh 08-02-2011 11:45 PM

kknudson -

Given the volatility it doesn't sound like learning as you go would work. How'd you learn?

sjh

kknudson 08-03-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh (Post 2762996)
kknudson -

Given the volatility it doesn't sound like learning as you go would work. How'd you learn?

sjh

I've traded various markets on and off for 20 years, I trade options during the day for a living. Also very risky but can be rewarding.

I learned a lot by the school of hard knocks, a lot (A LOT) of reading, a few classes and general common sense.
I'm mostly a technical trader.

Again it can be rewarding, don't dream about getting rich over night, but you can make a living at it.

Also by far the most stressfully thing I have ever done, and I've had a few stressfull positions in my career.

Many FX brokers offer free accounts, then with FX they have Micro accounts you can open with next to nothing. Trading real money teaches you quickly.

AGAIN VERY RISKY, and you must be very very serious about it.

sjh 08-03-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kknudson (Post 2763042)
I've traded various markets on and off for 20 years, I trade options during the day for a living. Also very risky but can be rewarding.

I learned a lot by the school of hard knocks, a lot (A LOT) of reading, a few classes and general common sense.
I'm mostly a technical trader.

Again it can be rewarding, don't dream about getting rich over night, but you can make a living at it.

Also by far the most stressfully thing I have ever done, and I've had a few stressfull positions in my career.

Many FX brokers offer free accounts, then with FX they have Micro accounts you can open with next to nothing. Trading real money teaches you quickly.

AGAIN VERY RISKY, and you must be very very serious about it.

Where you able to benefit from the recent move of the Swiss currency?

kknudson 08-03-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh (Post 2763410)
Where you able to benefit from the recent move of the Swiss currency?


No I generally trade the Euro and / or the Yen, the Swiss move has been very slow and steady.
I trade more the the quick moves, short term.

sjh 08-03-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kknudson (Post 2763419)
No I generally trade the Euro and / or the Yen, the Swiss move has been very slow and steady.
I trade more the the quick moves, short term.

Ah, foreseen and the markets had ample opportunity to adjust.

sjh 08-04-2011 08:00 PM

This is just curiosity. I doubt very much that I'll get involved in this field.

With the 500 point drop today. Were you able to benefit from it?

kknudson 08-04-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjh (Post 2764001)
This is just curiosity. I doubt very much that I'll get involved in this field.

With the 500 point drop today. Were you able to benefit from it?

In the stock market I had a good day, not great, but enough to cover the losses in our core holdings.
The morning was strange, so I traded small and carefully. Unfortunately then I had a prior commitment for part of today.
Once I got back it was getting real flaky so I choose to step aside. Which is an important technique to be good at, knowing when to walk away.

I did do quite well in FX though, trading the $/Euro.

sjh 08-04-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kknudson (Post 2764082)
In the stock market I had a good day, not great, but enough to cover the losses in our core holdings.
The morning was strange, so I traded small and carefully. Unfortunately then I had a prior commitment for part of today.
Once I got back it was getting real flaky so I choose to step aside. Which is an important technique to be good at, knowing when to walk away.

I did do quite well in FX though, trading the $/Euro.

Thanks. The discipline interests me thought I doubt very much that I'll get involved.

Any insight on the market move today?


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