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KarTek · #16 08-06-2011, 09:15 AM

I've dreamed about a position with them. If it didn't involve a move out west, I'd take it in a second.

jplinville · #17 08-06-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh

May I ask your profession?

Sure...I'm a Tooling Engineer with 26 years of experience in design and build. I would be in charge of designing, proving, and implementation of gages, fixtures, special tooling and special machines used int he manufacture of their product.

Now, it's not the education from college that makes me desirable in my trade, it's the education i received from long deceased Germans that immigrated to the states during WWII. There were 8 Germans that were very guarded with their knowledge, unwilling to share with just anyone. Due to the fact that I came into the trade at a young age (i was 13, Dad owned the company, and I was in the shop everyday after school, weekends and holidays) they all viewed me as their child or grandchild. Due to this relationship i had with them, and my ability to tough out their brand of education, they poured information and experience into me, and helped mold me into what I have become, professionally.

Those that were given an education like me are getting rare due to the fact that most of them have retired...I still have another 20+ years before i get to that stage, so that makes me VERY sought after.

jplinville · #18 08-06-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD

do your research on cost of living and what happens when you lose your house in 12 months. PA is a fraction of cost of living as Cali. They need to offer you 3X what you make in PA.

At least 3X...

Mainly due to the CoL in Cali versus where I'm at now, plus the fact that I'm closer to my family in Ohio, I'll probably turn them down.

Just receiving the call from them means a lot to me...it proves to me and my wife that I am good at what I do and am highly sought after in my trade.

cessna5354 · #19 08-06-2011, 10:15 AM

JP,

Best of luck with your final decision. I would be renting in Cali, but your decision again!

LutzTD, PM sent regarding EE pwr professional.

Stoney · #20 08-06-2011, 11:10 AM

I had the same opportunity to learn from an older German machinist and 3 Engineers from Buffalo and a Chemist from Austria when I worked at a firm in Florida in the mid 1970's. We invented the first Gas Permeable Soft Contact lens and later the firm was bought by J&J. the Accuvue disposables are based on the patent we were granted in 1981. (Google Seymour Marco or Frontier Contact Lenses).

It was a perfect place to work as we built or invented every single machine we used except for the diamond lathes use dto cut the lens radii curves. If we needed 27 pulleys we made 'em on the Clausing out of 3" cold rolled brass. Need a dovetail in the top plate? Use the Bridgeport mill to cut it into the piece. Same with the chem lab. since almost none of the distillation gear we needed existed, we designed and made out own including having the glass blown by hand onsite.

What I learned was that nothing is impossible, all it takes is an open mind and willingness to work on the problem and listen to all options that the team presented. These rules and the old men I worked with have allowed me to be a success in every field of work I have chosen to enter.

I try and pass these skills and ideas on to the kids of today but very few want to learn. Those that have worked with me have made me proud and I frequently hear my name and the word "mentor" mentioned in the same sentence.

Makes you feel warm and fuzzy...

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Sure...I'm a Tooling Engineer with 26 years of experience in design and build. I would be in charge of designing, proving, and implementation of gages, fixtures, special tooling and special machines used int he manufacture of their product.

Now, it's not the education from college that makes me desirable in my trade, it's the education i received from long deceased Germans that immigrated to the states during WWII. There were 8 Germans that were very guarded with their knowledge, unwilling to share with just anyone. Due to the fact that I came into the trade at a young age (i was 13, Dad owned the company, and I was in the shop everyday after school, weekends and holidays) they all viewed me as their child or grandchild. Due to this relationship i had with them, and my ability to tough out their brand of education, they poured information and experience into me, and helped mold me into what I have become, professionally.

Those that were given an education like me are getting rare due to the fact that most of them have retired...I still have another 20+ years before i get to that stage, so that makes me VERY sought after.

The Clk Man · #21 08-06-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Sure...I'm a Tooling Engineer with 26 years of experience in design and build. I would be in charge of designing, proving, and implementation of gages, fixtures, special tooling and special machines used int he manufacture of their product.

Now, it's not the education from college that makes me desirable in my trade, it's the education i received from long deceased Germans that immigrated to the states during WWII. There were 8 Germans that were very guarded with their knowledge, unwilling to share with just anyone. Due to the fact that I came into the trade at a young age (i was 13, Dad owned the company, and I was in the shop everyday after school, weekends and holidays) they all viewed me as their child or grandchild. Due to this relationship i had with them, and my ability to tough out their brand of education, they poured information and experience into me, and helped mold me into what I have become, professionally.

Those that were given an education like me are getting rare due to the fact that most of them have retired...I still have another 20+ years before i get to that stage, so that makes me VERY sought after.

That kind of education is rare to come by, I am happy for you old friend. I know you will do what's best for your family and yourself. Money isn't everything.

el presidente · #22 08-06-2011, 02:20 PM

Would a healthy signing bonus sway your decision?

panZZer · #23 08-06-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KarTek

I've dreamed about a position with them. If it didn't involve a move out west, I'd take it in a second.

Coincidentally, me too.

panZZer · #24 08-06-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Sure...I'm a Tooling Engineer with 26 years of experience in design and build. I would be in charge of designing, proving, and implementation of gages, fixtures, special tooling and special machines used int he manufacture of their product.

Now, it's not the education from college that makes me desirable in my trade, it's the education i received from long deceased Germans that immigrated to the states during WWII. There were 8 Germans that were very guarded with their knowledge, unwilling to share with just anyone. Due to the fact that I came into the trade at a young age (i was 13, Dad owned the company, and I was in the shop everyday after school, weekends and holidays) they all viewed me as their child or grandchild. Due to this relationship i had with them, and my ability to tough out their brand of education, they poured information and experience into me, and helped mold me into what I have become, professionally.

Those that were given an education like me are getting rare due to the fact that most of them have retired...I still have another 20+ years before i get to that stage, so that makes me VERY sought after.

Again,
Coincidentally, me too., except not taught by Germans, picked some up in aftermarket car stuff and some in Aerospace sub contract outfits here in Cowtown working for Lockheed, and other industry places.

jplinville · #25 08-06-2011, 04:46 PM

Did you have to file a block of steel square? LOL They made me do that in the beginning. They wanted to see if I was serious. Lord only knows how many times these guys smacked me in the back of my head for mistakes. That was their brand of education...it was beat into me, so to speak.

I have mentored a number of "greenies", aka college students, that were new to the trade. It's amazing the sheer number that come out of college that think they know everything there is to know. Only a small handful of them actually closed their mouths and opened their ears and eyes and learned.

There are 3 in Dayton that still call me for advise on problems they have with a designing issue or other job related problems they may come across. There is another that now works in Texas that has never worked on a compound die before...he called me two weeks ago to ask for help.

I love my trade...it's just sad that it's not the same trade it was when I started in 1985.

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Originally Posted by Stoney

I had the same opportunity to learn from an older German machinist and 3 Engineers from Buffalo and a Chemist from Austria when I worked at a firm in Florida in the mid 1970's. We invented the first Gas Permeable Soft Contact lens and later the firm was bought by J&J. the Accuvue disposables are based on the patent we were granted in 1981. (Google Seymour Marco or Frontier Contact Lenses).

It was a perfect place to work as we built or invented every single machine we used except for the diamond lathes use dto cut the lens radii curves. If we needed 27 pulleys we made 'em on the Clausing out of 3" cold rolled brass. Need a dovetail in the top plate? Use the Bridgeport mill to cut it into the piece. Same with the chem lab. since almost none of the distillation gear we needed existed, we designed and made out own including having the glass blown by hand onsite.

What I learned was that nothing is impossible, all it takes is an open mind and willingness to work on the problem and listen to all options that the team presented. These rules and the old men I worked with have allowed me to be a success in every field of work I have chosen to enter.

I try and pass these skills and ideas on to the kids of today but very few want to learn. Those that have worked with me have made me proud and I frequently hear my name and the word "mentor" mentioned in the same sentence.

Makes you feel warm and fuzzy...

Aquaticedge · #26 08-06-2011, 04:54 PM

No. but it does sound awesome though

tonkovich · #27 08-06-2011, 04:55 PM

i'd think twice. tesla seems like a financial "house of cards", and ilon musk... well, let's just say i wouldn't buy a used (or new) car from. just one man's opinion.

panZZer · #28 08-06-2011, 05:44 PM

When ever I had to work with the aerospace "toolmakers' it became apparrant real quick that the workplace where they come from--it takes 10 of them to do a 1 man job.

pj67coll · #29 08-06-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Now, it's not the education from college that makes me desirable in my trade, it's the education i received from long deceased Germans that immigrated to the states during WWII.

Interesting. During WWII?

- Peter.

jplinville · #30 08-06-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

When ever I had to work with the aerospace "toolmakers' it became apparrant real quick that the workplace where they come from--it takes 10 of them to do a 1 man job.

No kidding!! I noticed, while working in Utah, their work ethic leaves alot to be desired. They spent more time BSing than they did work, and the work they did was slow at best. I've worked both in automotive as well as aerospace...but, there isn't much in the trade I haven't done yet.