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Old 09-02-2011, 01:34 PM
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Teachers starting out at $60K

What do you think about this?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/starting-salary-teacher-60-000-131728091.html

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Old 09-02-2011, 01:55 PM
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I wish my salary were at that level and I've got 28 yrs of experience. The reality around here is that no one will ever afford to buy a house on a teacher's salary. The implications of that fact are pretty far reaching. You'll get a lot of starry eyed 20 somethings coming into the profession and leaving in short order once the idealism wears off.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:04 PM
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exactly, I kind of changed my path in school because teaching sucks. Yes we need teachers but at the low pay, incredible amount of work, stress of dealing with the always changing classroom politics and laws. It's just not worth it to me.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:12 PM
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That's a lot for a baby sitter.
I dunno, make it voluntary, end the monopoly, you'll find out exactly what a teacher's salary should be. I wasted 13 years in those indoctrination camps with threat of force or abduction if I tried to leave. I wouldn't pay one red cent for what I received.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:13 PM
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I think that a good teacher is worth every pennie and more. A teacher's job is a thankless job.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:23 PM
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That's a lot for a baby sitter.
I dunno, make it voluntary, end the monopoly, you'll find out exactly what a teacher's salary should be. I wasted 13 years in those indoctrination camps with threat of force or abduction if I tried to leave. I wouldn't pay one red cent for what I received.
Not even for the ability to write a complete sentence? Or did you learn that all by yourself?
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:25 PM
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Actually, the going rate around my neck of the woods for babysitters is 5 bucks an hour per kid. If I could get baby sitter pay, I'd come out of retirement in a heartbeat.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:30 PM
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Now that we are approaching peso valuation for the dollar, $60K is not that much. I can easily piss away twice that and not have a damn thing to show for it.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:34 PM
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Entry level salary in my district is under 30K. New teachers have to immediately go back to school, unless they already have a master's degree, which is rare. With graduate credit courses going for 300 dollars per credit hour and the first few summers of employment dedicated to going back to school, it works out to less than minimum wage. Something needs to change. I personally lost a number of good teachers to the private sector over the years. One young guy I worked with for a few years got let go in last year's reduction in force, and he's now working in Las Vegas as a waiter. He has a guaranteed salary of 40K a year and makes a hundred or more a night in cash tips, plus benefits. A dish donkey is worth more than someone who can teach a child to read? Uh huh.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:35 PM
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I wish my salary were at that level and I've got 28 yrs of experience. The reality around here is that no one will ever afford to buy a house on a teacher's salary. The implications of that fact are pretty far reaching. You'll get a lot of starry eyed 20 somethings coming into the profession and leaving in short order once the idealism wears off.
I'm not sure I understand this. Have they considered the other benefits? Why must a teacher's wage alone be able to buy a house? What about 2 teachers together? Why must it all be on 1 person in the house?
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Not even for the ability to write a complete sentence? Or did you learn that all by yourself?
No, believe it or not, my parents and siblings taught me to read and write before I entered school. And then I began reading more complex books, and writing more complex pieces on my own... Not everything starts with the government, but I'm sure you love and thank them very much for everything you have.
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I'm not sure I understand this. Have they considered the other benefits? Why must a teacher's wage alone be able to buy a house? What about 2 teachers together? Why must it all be on 1 person in the house?
Why not? You think a single person shouldn't be able to own a house? Some decades ago that was exactly the norm. Then over time it got so that you need two incomes for a house. What makes two the magic number? To follow that to it's logical conclusion there's no reason why you should'nt stuff several families in one house if that's what it takes to afford them.

Teachers salaries are crap. I know, I'm married to one in one of the worst states in the union in that regard. Beneffits are irellivent, they don't pay the rent even assuming they amounted to much and the real issue here is the low regard in which teaching is held in this nation. If you regard teaching as a low end job you will get low end teachers resulting in a low end population who will fail in the real world of high end compettition.

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Of the dozen or so of our friends and family members who are teachers (including my FIL and late MIL), all of them love it. Not any younger ones, though. All are 30's+. A good number of them are boaters who spend the entire summer on the water and several spend the summer doing PT work (home improvement, painting, lawn care, power equipment resale). My FIL just enjoys the time off to relax, although he's been at it long enough in addition to being an adjunct professor at a local state college so that he's pretty well compensated.

I would love for my wife to start teaching when my youngest starts school full time next year (passed the state certification exam and only had student teaching left to do to get her degree before deciding she wanted to get a degree in public health instead). But she doesn't want to deal with the bureaucratic b.s., paperwork and record-keeping. She wants to be a special ed. paraprofessional instead. Still gets to teach (with additional special needs requirements), 40% of the pay, none of the paperwork.

CT teachers start around $40K and average $64K.
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We need qualified parents more than qualified teachers.

I would have loved to have been a history teacher but chose not to because of the pay and headaches.
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Why not? You think a single person shouldn't be able to own a house? Some decades ago that was exactly the norm. Then over time it got so that you need two incomes for a house. What makes two the magic number? To follow that to it's logical conclusion there's no reason why you should'nt stuff several families in one house if that's what it takes to afford them.

If you regard teaching as a low end job you will get low end teachers resulting in a low end population who will fail in the real world of high end compettition.
Some decades ago, the norm was that the husband worked and the wife stayed at home too. Things have changed. I don't think a single person should be barred from home ownership but just because it was that way in the past (wife and kids didn't work) doesn't mean that times have to stay the way they were. Home ownership isn't a right.

I thought they only work about 3/4 of the year and are salaried as such? If so, what is 39 weeks of 40hrs/week of work worth? They salaried or hourly waged? If it is salaried for 39 weeks of GUARANTEED work, it isn't that bad. Most of us don't have guaranties of work and basically work from day to day. Besides, I don't think it is the teacher so much as the student. I can see that the students in this part of the world are not as motivated as others so no matter how stellar the teacher is, your student is crap and your work will be crap

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