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sjh 09-08-2011 04:20 PM

This is what Hoffa Meant!
 
Hoffa made his remark about ~ takin' out the SOBs.

Here some of his boy's show us how it's done.

Hundreds of angry longshoremen stormed ... cutting brake lines and dumping cargo.

Local2ED 09-08-2011 06:36 PM

'bout time


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SboRijhWFDU

Botnst 09-08-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Local2ED (Post 2787257)
'bout time...

Nothing like some good ultraviolence, eh my droogs!?

kerry 09-08-2011 06:44 PM

Direct action is sometimes an effective way to protect one's private property--labor.

Billybob 09-08-2011 06:48 PM

Ha! Ha! Unions fighting other unions, may the fittest parasitic organism win.

Botnst 09-08-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2787269)
Direct action is sometimes an effective way to protect one's private property--labor.

"Direct action", a euphemism for violence. Good job!

kerry 09-08-2011 06:54 PM

Why do you think direct action has to be violent? Odd interpretation. A sit down strike is direct action. It's not violent. Direct action might be violent--as when Rockefeller shot and killed striking workers at Ludlow. It also can be non-violent when he evicted the striking workers from company housing.

Botnst 09-08-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2787282)
Why do you think direct action has to be violent? ,,,

I followed the link.

10fords 09-09-2011 12:36 AM

Union thugs are no different than punk gang members. As long as they outnumber their opponents by more than 10 to 1 they are badasses. As a non union worker on 2 gate jobs (they had to bring in skilled people to get the job done) I would get threatened and called a "scab" by the union "workers", but only when I was by myself. I would try to explain to them that if they did their job properly I wouldn't need to be there. If you are good at what you do you don't need the supposed "protection" of a union to ensure your continued employment. Otherwise you rule by intimidation and violence.

chilcutt 09-09-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 10fords (Post 2787506)
Union thugs are no different than punk gang members. As long as they outnumber their opponents by more than 10 to 1 they are badasses. As a non union worker on 2 gate jobs (they had to bring in skilled people to get the job done) I would get threatened and called a "scab" by the union "workers", but only when I was by myself. I would try to explain to them that if they did their job properly I wouldn't need to be there. If you are good at what you do you don't need the supposed "protection" of a union to ensure your continued employment. Otherwise you rule by intimidation and violence.

x2...My experiances with the Plumbers Union in Michigan, left no doubt in my mind that the Unions protect the weak.
It is for that very reason my brother and I struck out as Independants back in 2004.

10fords 09-09-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2787512)
x2...My experiances with the Plumbers Union in Michigan, left no doubt in my mind that the Unions protect the weak.
It is for that very reason my brother and I struck out as Independants back in 2004.

Chilcutt- you and I have had nothing but an adverserial relationship for a long time and now you are agreeing with me, which can only mean one of two things- I am wrong or you are lying!:D

cmac2012 09-09-2011 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 10fords (Post 2787506)
Union thugs are no different than punk gang members. As long as they outnumber their opponents by more than 10 to 1 they are badasses. As a non union worker on 2 gate jobs (they had to bring in skilled people to get the job done) I would get threatened and called a "scab" by the union "workers", but only when I was by myself. I would try to explain to them that if they did their job properly I wouldn't need to be there. If you are good at what you do you don't need the supposed "protection" of a union to ensure your continued employment. Otherwise you rule by intimidation and violence.

Reform is needed but historically, unions have benefited most of us. 40 hour week for starters. The union thugs are hard to take, definitely, but barring restraint, I have little doubt that many or at least some capitalists would quickly revert to treating their workers similarly to the meanest treatment accorded American workers back in the day.

Full disclosure - I was in a union once, for about 6 months, when I worked as a machinist's helper at Marco Marine in Seattle. Our division built hydraulic pump drives. I don't recall it favorably or unfavorably.

Air&Road 09-09-2011 07:44 AM

My high school geometry teacher said something that has stuck with me for about 45 years: "Say what you mean and MEAN what you say." Too bad Hoffa didn't have her for geometry. No, wait a minute, he probably couldn't get past the prerequisite courses in order to take geometry.

Larry

boneheaddoctor 09-09-2011 09:34 AM

Jimmy Hoffa is a pompous blowhard. And he is also ill informed if he thinks all of the teamsters would stand behind him after his public outburst of stupidity.

Fact is a large number of teamsters are not the left wing lunatics he has just shown everyone he is himself. And as a result there are a large block of members who will now vote for ANYONE who opposes him the next election for union leadership.

chilcutt 09-09-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor (Post 2787650)
Jimmy Hoffa is a pompous blowhard.

He's talking to the people in Detroit..what do you expect?


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