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In Memory...9/11
2,976 people died at the murderous hands of Muslim Terrorists 10 years ago today...
What were you doing when the attack happened? How has it changed your life? Do you really feel safer today since the passing of the Patriot Act?
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Can we keep the politics out of it please?
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Does that fact that some others have and express opinions that may be "political" harm or offend you in some way?
Instead of complaining and attempting to corrupt someone else's thread why don't you start your own apolitical thread 9/11 thread and label it as such so that like minded people can participate in it? |
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While I respect your thoughts, I feel I must remind you that it was World Politics that got us involved in the first place.
So, at this moment, I will refuse your request so that this thread can continue.
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This is going to get ugly. I'll pass.
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How many of you feel safer because of the Patriot Act?
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by world politics, do you mean existing in a world were zealots hate us because of our freedom and secular way of life?
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We obviously weren't safe before, and nothing major has happened here in the 10 years since, so Yes. Do you?
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Why base 10?
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Sorry but "In Memory" to me means remembering those who were lost in these attacks, not the subsequent political debates. Have fun guys, guess I'll steer my respects clear.
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As far as tbomachines bailing out, he didn't bother to answer ANY questions. I was busy proving to my now ex wife that I made too much money to qualify for welfare. I stepped outside for a smoke when I heard about the first plane. I rushed inside just in time to watch the second plane hit. Do I feel safer? NO...we still have wide open borders. Dirty bombs can still cross the Canadian and Mexican borders just as easily as people can cross. I personally feel that the Patriot Act has done more harm than good. DHS, I feel, is just another way for the government to peer into the private lives and conversations of law abiding citizens. How has it changed my life...I now look at Muslims and the first thought that comes to mind is terrorism. The area in Ohio from which I moved from a few years ago and seen an explosion in the numbers of Muslims living there...and this is where Wright Patterson AFB is located. That bothers me. I'm bothered that I look at a Muslim in full head gear and feel that I have to be on the defensive. I'm bothered that I'm bothered about the Muslim population increasing around a key military installation. Due to the attacks on 9/11, I've lost 8 family members...one on 9/11 and the other 7 fighting in the ME. I currently have a step son in basic training, and a daughter wanting to join after she graduates HS at the end of this year. I have a cousin that is missing body parts, blown to bits from an IED. Has my life changed? Yes Do I feel safe? No. Do I feel as if my personal liberties have been stepped on? Yes. Do I care if anyone this, or any other fora feels like I do...Not one damned bit. So, in memory of those that died on 9/11/2001, you won't ever be forgotten.
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JP, you are a true Patriot and I respect you for that.
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I had hoped that Obama would repeal "Patriot Act." Instead, he embraced it.
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Me too, only one of many disappointments from the wuss in chief.
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I would have hoped that an act of terrorism would unite you guys.
There is no room for politics in the fight against terrorism. It would be better to see this thread become an expression of the sorrow that we all feel for the victims. I think tbomachines thoughts are decent. Lets keep the thread respectful & keep politics out !!!!
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