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Must have for the liberal press, yes.
If a statue of MLK was covered up when say the tea party was having a conference it would be on all the news channels for a week and riots may be undertaken is my guess. What is your two guesses if that were the case? If you think there would be no news about that then fine, but if you think there would be any outrage or lots of news then we can clearly note a double standard. Again- what is your humble guesses as to if the situation where played out with a MLK statue covered up? This does go to the basis of race relations, equality, and double standards. I certainly hope we all are trying to eradicate double standards and make equal opportunities for everyone and not base things on race. |
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I think that video of a Tea Party rally with a covered up MLK statue would get lots and lots of attention. The video would be replayed over and over. Now, as to the GW statue, I still say, so what? Double standard? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure it's an apples-to-apples comparison. Either way, I still say, so what? |
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I'm not sure that I have a good argument to make beyond how it feels to me. If a local chapter of the NAACP covered up GW because they thought he would offend people attending their rally (and that is a significant "if"), then I think that is unfortunate and I wish they didn't do it. On the other hand, if people see GW as a symbol of the evil system of slavery and the oppression of black people after slavery ended, then I'm glad to live in a country where they can say so. If our hypothetical Tea Partiers covered up an MLK statue, it would make me wonder what that statue symbolizes for them. I would wonder why they want to cover him up. For whatever reason, I think I would be less proud to live in a country with those people. |
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The GW thing, if it is as portrayed in your OP, might be racism, but not necessarily. If some people see GW as a symbol of slavery, then I think they are misguided, but their animosity toward him would have a non-racial component. Last edited by Honus; 09-14-2011 at 02:18 PM. |
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What I find strange about this and race relations is that if 40 years ago the USA- white and black and yellow and green- all said we can no longer base any "public" decision based on race everyone but the white racists would have been overjoyed. Now if we say that the blacks and PC whites do everything to refute that and say it's wrong; we have to base public decisions based on how we can give blacks more stuff- be that more business from the government, be that more college entrances slots, be that most anything as long as it "helps" blacks. In addition, blacks have tried and basically gotten that no other group is a "minority" in many cases because that means less of the stuff for blacks. Now far too much things that blacks do is swept under the rug with the "so what?" by the PC crowd which by any other definition is making decisions based solely on race. Wouldn't and didn't MLK argue against this very thing?
It is my contention that we will never have a society free of racism until we as a whole are free of making decisions about anything or anyone that is based on race. We must be race blind. What's good for the goose MUST be good for the gander, and until everyone is race blind no one will be free of racism or racist policies. |
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The people at that rally were all private citizens doing what citizens do in America. They have (according to you) beliefs that offend you, but so what? What do you want us to do about it? Are you suggesting that demonstrators would not be permitted to express anti-black views? What about the Nazis in Skokie? Last edited by Honus; 09-14-2011 at 10:53 PM. |
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What do I think should be done about it? I feel no motivation to do anything about it. I am just having a hard time getting upset about it. I like GW as much as the next guy, but I am not so insecure as to freak out whenever someone disrespects him. If called upon to do something about it, I would first talk to the organizers to see whether their story holds together. If so, then I might give them some unsolicited, amateur PR advice that they might help their cause to be a bit more respectful of our first president. If I think they are lying, then perhaps someone should point it out. I think that's about it. |
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Free speech -- it's a good thing. Including these guys. The alternative is not just stupid, it's suicidal for the polity.
But their still ignorant. |
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Those questions would be less obvious with a GW statue but I wouldn't want a statue of GW behind me or any other speakers at an event I was organizing. Too distracting for the eye.
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Didn't you mean to say 'there still ignernt?'
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Heh!
There's no Their there.
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