Talking about delusional and conspiracy theories, are we?

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Hey Aklim, I think you helped get my deviant thread erased..not just locked..ERASED

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Yes. Healthy people take no pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals are poisons. Take pharmacueticals and you are less than healthy. If you are not healthy, do not operate machinery. Do not endanger others.

The myth that pharmacueticals make people healthy is PR and a lie and very, very profitable for a few at the expense of many.

What again did I say?

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And people with full bellies don't eat. Point? You take pharmaceuticals simply because you have an issue. Perhaps you know of people that take chemotherapy when they don't have cancer or autoimmune diseases but I don't.

That myth is in your mind simply because your scope is narrow. I don't take a vitamin D pill simply because I got bored last week. I take it because my blood tests show I am deficient in that area. Same philosophy as going to work. I go to work because it corrects a deficiency in my life be it boredom, lack of cash, social interaction, etc, etc. I don't go to work to enrich my bosses.

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Many people take pharmaceuticals simply because they visited a doctor. Doctors write prescriptions. Money, money, money.

Needless prescriptions are the basis of much pain and suffering, traffic crashes are only one consequence.

Scope? Please elaborate on my scope. An assumption like that? You don't need to make assumptions, you have assumption written all over you. You are permeated with assumption. Without assumption you would be in a gaseous state. Scope? Let me guess, someone you know is a pill pusher, right? Maybe even pays your bills?

Well, if you really have a legit cure, feel free to send it along for testing. Wait, can't do that. "The Man" will find a way to put you down.

I wasn't aware that it was legal for pharmacy companies to simply give you a check for the script they write. Do tell.

Yes they are. Fortunately, we have your medical expertise and the conspiracy websites to determine what is necessary.

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Try again. My wife is an NP and part of her job is to cut down the meds. Maybe it is because she works for an insurance company. If she worked for someone else, maybe they would give her a cut. Problem is I know a lot of prescribes and none I know of has gotten rich writing scripts. Can you tell me how we could get into that "cash for scripts" deal? I'd be willing to give you a "bird dog fee" once the steady income from it has been achieved.

I'm paying my share of the bills so I can't say that I know of anyone paying my bills but if you know someone who will, I will cut you in for a percentage. I'm sure we can reasonably negotiate a fair cut for you

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Prescription drugs do have their uses and have saved many lives, probably including mine*. The problem is that they are, IMNSHO greatly overprescribed, and many of the drugs on the market probably shouldn't be. This happens for many reasons. You get some people with hypertension and/or bad lipid panels due to poor lifestyle choices who would rather eat pills than fix the way they live. You get kids who are on psychotropic drugs to control behavior that's really just a training issue. You get people whose doctors convince them to take strong drugs for minor or non-problems. There's even one I saw a commercial for (with a long list of severe side effects) that's supposed to make your eyelashes grow more.

A local gun store has a sign detailing the number of doctors in America and the number of patient deaths caused by physician errors, along with the number of guns in America along with the number of accidental shooting deaths. I forget the specific numbers, but the general idea is that guns are much much safer than doctors.

*Antibiotics for pneumonia, more than once and anti-malaria meds when I was in places where that is prevalent.

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Therein lies the problem. Assuming I am your patient and I say "I refuse to change my lifestyle. Find the next best thing.". Your choice is to either pill me or let me get worse and die. Unlike a nursing home where they can force some sort of compliance, the problem is that there is not a good choice. Ideally, you want me to stop smoking, eat less, get proper rest, etc, etc. Practically, it ain't happening.

The trick to listing side effects is to toss out everything from head to toe. So, if I were prescribing Viagra, I would memorize all the possible symptoms from head to toe first and oh, BTW, it might give you blue spots in your vision. Those are just the boilerplate symptoms that they list so you cannot say "OMG! You never told me.....". That was the trick my wife learned for pharmacology. List EVERYTHING possible and remember a few exceptions.

Problem with that number is that there are so many more prescriptions than guns. I could have 10 scripts myself as can anyone so the number of errors will be more. Each script could be several errors. MD can write the wrong thing, pharmacist's aide can put the wrong pill or hand out the wrong bottle, etc, etc. I am not sure that is a good comparison.

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Do a google search for a list of drugs that doctors won't take. There was a list of 50 or 100 drugs. I don't know if you can find it now. Drug companies smashface such information pretty quickly.

If you blindly trust drug companies, health insurance companies and doctors you will live out the ultimate sucker play.

That is pretty meaningless if you don't understand the context. Every practitioner has their personal favorite drugs. My wife cannot stand Geodon, for example. OTOH, it is the personal favorite of one of the Neuropsychiatrists she works with. That is his first line drug, and that is her last line drug. Who is right? IDK. I have not taken any meds my wife doesn't approve of simply because I turn that facet of my affairs over to her. Does he have prejudices? You bet. I challenge you to find me a practitioner that does NOT have a favorite drug for a given condition. Those sort of "lists" pretty much line up with the "Secrets your (insert group here) doesn't want you to know." or "Ancient Chinese Secrets".

I know they do. Much like the 500 mpg carburetor was bought over and sitting in some vault deep in the bowels of GM.

I don't advocate blind trust. That is why every practitioner answers to my wife. If she doesn't understand it and they cannot give her a satisfactory explanation, we don't do it. If I did, I would go to the practitioner and follow whatever they say. All test results go to her. Any suggestions go thru her. I don't understand them and I don't want to bother since I have a resource that can find answers either with her colleagues or other means. I believe in test results. Yes, they are NOT perfect either but I can't think of a better way to do it. I don't listen to gossip, innuendos, suppositions and wild theories. If you cannot prove it, you don't have my interest at all. I don't buy Enzyte or Extenze in spite of the testimonials simply because they have no laboratory proof. Again, not perfect but I don't know of a better starting point. I don't buy a product simply because it stamps "natural" on the label. Arsenic and Lead are natural products too. Doesn't mean it works. I don't believe folk remedies and what not. If you say I have a condition, prove it. Show me a proven therapy or I show you the door.

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It's pretty meaningful if you bother to look.

Not if it is opinion and not backed up by fact. I can find you another 100 that will say these doctors are wrong and the drug is good. No facts = opinion. If these doctors can prove it, show me. Otherwise, it is just one of the "secrets your so and so doesn't want you to know".

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