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chilcutt 09-25-2011 03:39 AM

Sexual Deviants
 
Molestation is exclusively human and is absent in the animal world, where a male withdraws if rejected. It is not normal behavior, and arises from a sick mind.

Medmech 09-25-2011 07:17 AM

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t walgamuth 09-25-2011 07:21 AM

How can you tell the nationality of the donkey doers in that blurry night photograped film?

Medmech 09-25-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 2797105)
How can you tell the nationality of the donkey doers in that blurry night photograped film?

The origin of the film is a good place to start.

tjts1 09-25-2011 08:17 AM

Yes, because all night vision videos come from Iraq. Common knowledge.

chilcutt 09-25-2011 08:28 AM

I gotta call BS on the propaganda spin. The men in this video are not dressed the part. No jaloba's..looks like they are wearing slacks and long sleeve shirts.

Nice try tho.

Back on track of the threads content> supposeing the video is not doctered-the men doing the donkey are sexual deviants, and have sick minds.

kerry 09-25-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2797086)
Molestation is exclusively human and is absent in the animal world, where a male withdraws if rejected. It is not normal behavior, and arises from a sick mind.

What evidence supports this claim? Seems like there is a lot of what humans call violence in the animal sexual world. Forced copulation is not uncommon from what I know, so it may be against some human social norms, but it is normal if you include the non-human animal world. Also, for thousands of years, the idea that females had the right to consent to sex was absent from lots of human societies. For instance, it's only recently that spousal rape has become a crime. Females were traded by males for a long time and the fact that they were indicates that female consent to male partners was irrelevant.

chilcutt 09-25-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2797117)
What evidence supports this claim? Seems like there is a lot of what humans call violence in the animal sexual world. Forced copulation is not uncommon from what I know, so it may be against some human social norms, but it is normal if you include the non-human animal world. Also, for thousands of years, the idea that females had the right to consent to sex was absent from lots of human societies. For instance, it's only recently that spousal rape has become a crime. Females were traded by males for a long time and the fact that they were indicates that female consent to male partners was irrelevant.

For the most part-animals copulate for breeding purposes-ie: when the females come in heat-in order to perpetuate the species.
From what I know neither the male or the female in the animal kingdom experiances joy from the sexual act. Unlike the human being who gets satisfaction from the sex act.
In terms of forced copulation in the animal kingdom, I suppose the question would be- "Can/does the female get pregnate from this encounter,if she is not in heat'?

kerry 09-25-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2797121)
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From what I know neither the male or the female in the animal kingdom experiances joy from the sexual act. Unlike the human being who gets satisfaction from the sex act.

One of our closest relatives, the Bonobo, engages in frequent non-reproductive hetero and homosexual sex. It is part of their everyday social interactions and appears from all descriptions to be pleasurable. Not sure about coercion amongst Bonobos, but in the back of my mind, I seem to remember that it does occur in Chimps.

t walgamuth 09-25-2011 09:24 AM

I am not saying there are no other species besides Bonobos and Humans who have sex for pleasure but I think iti is pretty rare in the animal world.

layback40 09-25-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 2797127)
I am not saying there are no other species besides Bonobos and Humans who have sex for pleasure but I think iti is pretty rare in the animal world.

Its a bit hard to get a straight answer from an animal as to if they have just had sex for pleasure !! :confused::confused: ;) :P:P

if you see a bull after mating, it looks some what contented. Often so does the cow !! :rolleyes:

chilcutt 09-25-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by layback40 (Post 2797129)
Its a bit hard to get a straight answer from an animal as to if they have just had sex for pleasure !! :confused::confused: ;) :P:P

if you see a bull after mating, it looks some what contented. Often so does the cow !! :rolleyes:

I would think that the cow is just glad that the bull has finished with his business.

elchivito 09-25-2011 09:58 AM

I'm curious, those of you who think the animals aren't having fun, how exactly is it that you know that? Further, how many times have you actually watched animals breed and, um, why were you watching? :)

Kuan 09-25-2011 09:59 AM

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Medmech 09-25-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 2797113)
Yes, because all night vision videos come from Iraq. Common knowledge.

Research aids common knowledge it was filmed by a Kiowa helicopter.


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