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TwitchKitty · #1 09-30-2011, 09:20 AM

Letter: America's trade deficit is easily recognizable | StAugustine.com

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The trade deficit for the last 12 months, per April 2011 (“The Economist” June 18), merchandise only, was minus $680,9 billion U.S. dollars. A distant No. 2 in the world is the U.K. with a minus of $153,1 billion

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By comparison China has a surplus of $172,5 billion, Japan $61 billion, Germany $209,1 billion and Russia, a surplus of $159,4 billion.

Notice the Socialist countries whooping economic arse on the Capitalist countries. That's not what they teach in grade school...

They also teach that the US won WWII. Can't prove it by this.

Germany's numbers prove that they didn't have to completely gut this country.

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=trade+surplus+china+germany

raymr · #2 09-30-2011, 09:55 AM

19% trade tariffs? Germans are much more willing to pay extra in support of their country than we are. Look at their personal tax rates. They will need the extra funds to pull the rest of Europe out of the hole.

pj67coll · #3 09-30-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

Letter: America's trade deficit is easily recognizable | StAugustine.com

Notice the Socialist countries whooping economic arse on the Capitalist countries. That's not what they teach in grade school...

They also teach that the US won WWII. Can't prove it by this.

Germany's numbers prove that they didn't have to completely gut this country.

That is a shallow and innacurate assessment. The US did not win WWII. Russia, or more specifically the Soviet Union won WWII. The US was lucky enough to be on the winning side and in the unique position to have been essentially untouched by the war thus in a position to beneffit economicaly from it in a way that no other nation could.

The nations of Europe, in particular Germany entered their postwar period disarmed and sheltering under American military protection. Without the expense of a military to upkeep and wars to fund you can divert riches to other aspects of your society that empires like the USA cannot. In time the US's economic compettitors, Germany, Japan, China were able to reap the rewards of this and set themselves up on firm economic footings. But anyone who assumes this occured on a level playing field or that "socialism is wooping capitalisms' ass is a fool.

Germany is not a socialist country any more than China or Japan are. And the mess the US has gotten itself into in the last couple of decades has nothing to do with capitalism and much to do with domestic ignorance and stupiditiy.

- Peter.

tjts1 · #4 09-30-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

That is a shallow and innacurate assessment. The US did not win WWII. Russia, or more specifically the Soviet Union won WWII. The US was lucky enough to be on the winning side and in the unique position to have been essentially untouched by the war thus in a position to beneffit economicaly from it in a way that no other nation could.

The nations of Europe, in particular Germany entered their postwar period disarmed and sheltering under American military protection. Without the expense of a military to upkeep and wars to fund you can divert riches to other aspects of your society that empires like the USA cannot. In time the US's economic compettitors, Germany, Japan, China were able to reap the rewards of this and set themselves up on firm economic footings. But anyone who assumes this occured on a level playing field or that "socialism is wooping capitalisms' ass is a fool.

Germany is not a socialist country any more than China or Japan are. And the mess the US has gotten itself into in the last couple of decades has nothing to do with capitalism and much to do with domestic ignorance and stupiditiy.

- Peter.

aklim · #5 09-30-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

Notice the Socialist countries whooping economic arse on the Capitalist countries. That's not what they teach in grade school...

Please list the true socialist countries. China? Nope. Vietnam, Nope. Been to both and seen them. The USSR? Mother of Socialism? Nope. The first 2 are socialist in name. Much like a Democrat is a liberal in name and a Republican is a conservative in name. I know many girls name Bonnie and they do NOT fit the definition below by any stretch of the imagination

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Bonnie

Bonnie \b(on)-nie\ as a girl's name is pronounced BAHN-ee. It is of Scottish origin, and the meaning of Bonnie is "fine, attractive, pretty". From the Scottish word "bonnie" and also diminutive of the French word "bonne", meaning "good". Commonly used as a fond nickname. The old nursery rhyme claims that "the child who is born on the Sabbath Day/is bonny and blithe and good and gay", which makes this an appropriate name for a Sunday's child. Literary: Scarlett O'Hara's daughter by Rhett Butler was named "Bonnie Blue". A famous American bearer was Bonnie Parker, accomplice of the bank robber Clyde Barrow; their life was made into the 1967 film "Bonnie and Clyde". The name is also used as a pet form of Bonita. Actress Bonnie Hunt; Olympic speedskater Bonnie Blair.

panZZer · #6 10-02-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Please list the true socialist countries. China? Nope. Vietnam, Nope. Been to both and seen them. The USSR? Mother of Socialism? Nope. The first 2 are socialist in name. Much like a Democrat is a liberal in name and a Republican is a conservative in name. I know many girls name Bonnie and they do NOT fit the definition below by any stretch of the imagination

Bonnie | meaning of Bonnie | name Bonnie

Bonnie \b(on)-nie\ as a girl's name is pronounced BAHN-ee. It is of Scottish origin, and the meaning of Bonnie is "fine, attractive, pretty". From the Scottish word "bonnie" and also diminutive of the French word "bonne", meaning "good". Commonly used as a fond nickname. The old nursery rhyme claims that "the child who is born on the Sabbath Day/is bonny and blithe and good and gay", which makes this an appropriate name for a Sunday's child. Literary: Scarlett O'Hara's daughter by Rhett Butler was named "Bonnie Blue". A famous American bearer was Bonnie Parker, accomplice of the bank robber Clyde Barrow; their life was made into the 1967 film "Bonnie and Clyde". The name is also used as a pet form of Bonita. Actress Bonnie Hunt; Olympic speedskater Bonnie Blair.

So do those asian chicks really got horizontal coochiee's?

spdrun · #7 10-02-2011, 04:06 PM

Germany -- a country that spends on its own citizens and infrastructures, rather than spending on murdering people (who aren't worth the lives of a single Western soldier, I may add) in Middle Eastern countries. They learned a hard lesson 65 years ago that we're only just learning now. Imperialism Doesn't Pay(tm).

Irony: the fact that BOTH the German and Polish economies are going gangbusters compared to the economy here in Seppo land.

Incidentally, the USSR wasn't all that socialist. It was more Tsarist with a different tsar than before and a different state religion (Leninism vs Eastern Orthodoxy).

TwitchKitty · #8 10-02-2011, 04:15 PM

Thanks for the lesson on Seppo, new one for me.

Wonder what the rhyming slang for blind and FOS would be?

sjh · #9 10-02-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

That is a shallow and innacurate assessment. The US did not win WWII. Russia, or more specifically the Soviet Union won WWII. The US was lucky enough to be on the winning side and in the unique position to have been essentially untouched by the war thus in a position to beneffit economicaly from it in a way that no other nation could.

The nations of Europe, in particular Germany entered their postwar period disarmed and sheltering under American military protection. Without the expense of a military to upkeep and wars to fund you can divert riches to other aspects of your society that empires like the USA cannot. In time the US's economic compettitors, Germany, Japan, China were able to reap the rewards of this and set themselves up on firm economic footings. But anyone who assumes this occured on a level playing field or that "socialism is wooping capitalisms' ass is a fool.

Germany is not a socialist country any more than China or Japan are. And the mess the US has gotten itself into in the last couple of decades has nothing to do with capitalism and much to do with domestic ignorance and stupiditiy.

- Peter.

Peter has posted many times and his comments are consistently among the best.

I'm in agreement with majority of what he says in general and what he says here.

The segments above that I've highlighted are incomprehensible to me.

I'll just leave it at that.

I strongly agree with this except I believe it goes back more than 2 (a couple) of decades -

the mess the US has gotten itself into in the last couple of decades has nothing to do with capitalism and much to do with domestic ignorance and stupiditiy.

engatwork · #10 10-02-2011, 05:53 PM

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domestic ignorance and stupiditiy

Don't forget greedy.

sjh · #11 10-02-2011, 06:26 PM

Greed is a tricky word. Does it mean maximizing profit or being unethical/criminal.

Ethically maximizing profits is good.

But I suspect you are referring to the gutting of the reserves of ourselves that accountants and MBA's did for 25+ years, leaving us with a nation that has started to rot from within.

That has been a big loss.

aklim · #12 10-02-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

So do those asian chicks really got horizontal coochiee's?

Normally, I'd suggest that a person who is curious go try some but then I realized we are talking about you so I feel that a porn site or an asian hooker might be the only way you will see for yourself since it is unlikely that one will be that hard up for you that they will willingly show you without some form of getting paid for it.

Hatterasguy · #13 10-02-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Germany -- a country that spends on its own citizens and infrastructures, rather than spending on murdering people (who aren't worth the lives of a single Western soldier, I may add) in Middle Eastern countries. They learned a hard lesson 65 years ago that we're only just learning now. Imperialism Doesn't Pay(tm).

Irony: the fact that BOTH the German and Polish economies are going gangbusters compared to the economy here in Seppo land.

Incidentally, the USSR wasn't all that socialist. It was more Tsarist with a different tsar than before and a different state religion (Leninism vs Eastern Orthodoxy).

Actually it does pay quite well, if Germany and Japan had won WW2 they would have been set.

Germany had its own personal EU before they invaded Russia and could have easily kept it.

t walgamuth · #14 10-03-2011, 06:21 AM

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Actually it does pay quite well, if Germany and Japan had won WW2 they would have been set.

Germany had its own personal EU before they invaded Russia and could have easily kept it.

Hattie, sometimes I have to just shake my head.....

As for whether the US won WW2 or not, clearly Russia was assisted greatly by our supply of munitions....and we were aided greatly by their massive contribution of 20,000,000 dead soldiers to chew up the German war making machine on their front.

I'd say we would certainly have had to make a much more massive sacrifice in men to win without Russia, could we have won? I am not sure.

Could they have won without us? I don't know about that but just based on the shear size of Russia it seems doubtful that Germany could have ever put them away.

TwitchKitty · #15 10-03-2011, 08:46 PM

I am reading another WWII book. This one is different, Human Smoke.

Kinda sounds like some Germans blamed bankers for funding wars and getting a lot of innocent people killed. Never really saw it that way.

Human Smoke - Nicholson Baker - Book Review - New York Times

Really cheap at Amazon.