um,...huh?

Wall Street Still Gives More Cash to Obama Than to Republicans -- Daily Intel

Then shouldn't the conservatives join in the protest against "The Street"? They should be outraged that these investment houses are furthering the campaign of a heroin user.

I'm outraged that the Fed Gov set up the structure that precipitated the unsustainable growth in housing; I'm pi$$ed of at the unconscionable greed of lenders and bundlers who scammed people under the aegis of relaxed lending rules; I'm outraged by the concept of private enterprise being 'too big to allow to fail' thereby rewarding cosmically bad business practices.

Drumming night and day is dumb. Wandering around demanding that somebody else make one's life better is a waste of DNA.

Very good post! You summarized it quite well.

Yep, I'm really shaking in my boots.

I misunderstood. By "Wall Streeters" I thought you meant the protesters and so your comment didn't make sense. Seems to me that the math is a bit skewed in this Post article. Obama gets to count not only donations to him personally but all donations made to the DNC. The Republican candidates at this point can't do that. Even so, he and Romney aren't all that far apart.

That is true. At the same time, there are universities and colleges which creat bogus requirements, just to keep the cash flow going. For example, if you add enough extra required courses in: diversity, women's studies, African American studies, etc etc , you can charge the kids an extra 2,000 a head before they graduate. Hmmm let's see, if the school's got 5,000 students, why that's... 10 million bucks!

If people want to take those courses as electives, that's their choice. Too many schools have the agenda of deciding how well-rounded you should be, and what that means and all the courses you should take.

Whatever happened to the idea of free choice, since you are adults?
If you want to become an accountant, or a French teacher, or a mechanical engineer, there's a basic required curriculum that you need for your major.

If you are failing because your math is weak or your English needs polishing, then take those remedial courses as you need them. And consider them as "elective" that add value to your education.:)

And make you better.:D

Universities that create bogus requirements are doing this to keep themselves in business, rather than offering more more advanced courses, because the market for the advanced courses will always be smaller and less profitable.

Ask anyone who runs the University of Phoenix! :D

So let's create programs of study that will make people so skilled they will have less trouble finding a job.!!!

Remember all those MBA business management majors back from a few decades ago . . . look at the trouble they created. :D

Yep, about 20 or 30 years ago it became quite common for engineering driven companies to be taken over by the MBA's. Lots of such companies fell on their butts and ended up having divisions sold off and all sorts of accounting driven measures. Wrecked lots of companies and lots of lives.

A company built on an engineering driven concept, suddenly being turned into an accounting driven strategy is a prescription for disaster. As with all general rules, there are exceptions of course. It depends on the companies help at the time of the accountants take over.

Look at the wonders it did for Daimler.

Yep, great example!

Good chart local - thanks.

That certainly is a balanced report, no?
I am surprised you wasted your effort posting such a piece of propaganda. I'm even surprised I am replying to it.

http://occupywallst.org/media/pdf/OWS-profile1-10-18-11-sent-v2-HRCG.pdf

Funny how this gem seems to have gone unnoticed

Trolls gonna troll.

I am not suprised you replied.

The HEIGHT of Hypocracy!

Occupy Wall Street Has A Money Problem – Too Much Money | TheBlaze.com

I don't think that the above is copyrighted. If it is I apologize.

The OWS crowd who is protesting against the banks have put together $500,000 to further their efforts. I have no problem with that. Where they get EXTREMELY hypocritical is that they put the money in the bank! I thought that they are protesting against the banks!

Unbelievable.

Well, it is not a scientific poll--no poll that uses internet respondents is a scientific poll--no matter how scientifically the data is presented.
It says what its creator wanted it to say.

Maybe it would be easier for me to see the hypocrisy if you used bold, italic, upper case letters like this: "EXTREMELY." At the moment, I'm just not seeing it.

An article posted from Glenn Beck's "Blaze" website is about as believable as unicorns ridden by Fairy Queens. Given Beck's history of pushing falsehoods and whacked out conspiracy theories, only an idiot would believe a thing in that article without cross checking it with some reputable news site. A "Blaze" article based on another web article posted on wiretapper Rupert Murdoch's "New York Post", a scandal rag. But why bother with the truth, when propaganda will suffice?

Do you even read this stuff? I mean, do you even read your own propaganda? This is what it said:

How exactly is that "hypocritical"? The banks they are protesting against are the investment banks that ripped this economy off for trillions, then got bailed out by the taxpayer, who is now left in a ruined economy and what do the investment banks do in return? Why, they supply nothing in the way of lower mortgage rates while they get 0% loans FROM US, THE TAXPAYER, nothing in the way of spending to increase jobs, and then raise banking fees, fees for essentially us giving them our money. Then again, I do realize that trying to educate you is impossible.

If you can't see the duality in protesting against banks at the same time that you are putting your money in the bank, then I have no help to offer you.

Hmmmmm! So you dispute facts based on the messenger that delivers them? Go do your own googling and see how many other sources report the same thing. Beyond that, the article was originally in the New York Post.

Disprove it!

Disprove what? That the OWS people keep their money in a bank? Who cares?

Well since you can't see this, you have proved that you are so deep into your own world that you are unable to either face or understand facts.

A union owned bank and credit unions hold the deposits . . . not quite BofA, Chase, or Goldman. On a "purity" scale, is this equivalent of bemoaning the loss of American industry while typing on their foreign made computers on a foreign car forum? ;)

Discussion is just warming up gentlemen...stick around, it should get very interesting soon.

I don't know about you, but I'm banging the keys on a Dell.

Now, there's a persuasive argument.

BTW, I was not aware that OWS is against all banks and against people who keep their money in banks. Maybe you could steer me to a source that would support that claim.

Since the OWS people have been so inept at stating their case, this is no surprise!

So, now you agree with me?

Dell manufacturers their products, both components and finished units, globally.

From the Wiki

Assembly of desktop computers for the North American market formerly took place at Dell plants in Austin, Texas (original location) and Lebanon, Tennessee (opened in 1999). The plant in Winston-Salem, North Carolina (opened in 2005) is scheduled to cease operations in November 2010, while the Miami, Florida facility of its Alienware subsidiary remains in operation. Dell servers come from Austin, Texas.

Dell's desktop plant in Austin, Texas was shut down in 2008. It closed its desktop manufacturing in Lebanon in early 2009. The last major U.S. plant in North Carolina is scheduled to close in November 2010.[46] It is expected that most of the work carried out in North Carolina will be transferred to contract manufacturers in Asia and Mexico, though Dell said some of the work will move to its own factories overseas.[47]

Well as of last night in Oakland, many of the OWS protestors FINALLY got what they really want, violent protest. Congratulations!

Very unfortunate IMO, although it sounds like both sides have some blame from the article linked below. I recently heard there were a number of NYC officers who refused to carry out their orders to arrest the protestors...that came to me as a shock.

Occupy Oakland: Police use tear gas on OWS protesters; 100 arrested

I'm not sure everyone in OWS wants violence as you put it. The only thing I can find is a cursory "sampling" from WSJ saying a third of protestors would support violence to achieve their goals. That to me, seems extremely high and uncharacteristic (ultimately questioning sampling) but perhaps the sentiment in NYC is different than here in Philly.

I don't know if we can be so "either" ..." or "

In your example up there, people such as lay ministers, social workers, whether voluntary or paid, and people who start free medical clinics would all be stigmatized or branded as evil.

I would like to see a little more gray in this discussion and less black and white. I think people could meet on the gray "land" and have a useful, constructive conversation. We might even agree to disagreeon some points.

But we would bring back what used to be called " civil discourse."

I would invite you to reread my post previous to the above that you assumedly are responding to. I said that "MANY" of the protesters got what they wanted. I can't imagine that ALL of the protesters were wanting violence.

You make a very good point. There are indeed people with a spirit that is drawn to dangerous places such as missionaries, good hearted medical professionals and such. Point well taken.

As far as civil discourse in this forum, for my part that went out a LONG time ago with my being pummelled time and time again. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em and I have. I do my best to stop short of straight out name calling. If I have inadvertently crossed that line I apologize to whomever might have been in my path at the time.

Fair call - sorry for misconstruing your post.

I think it all points out the flaw in the original title of this thread.
There is no clarity about what OWS is all about. There is no universal agreement.

A post of wisdom!

I agree, its sort of a motley bunch of people who vaguely share political and economic ideology. In the case of that post, I simply read it wrong and don't want to pin the wrong words on Larry.

Here's the "poll" I was referring to
Douglas Schoen: Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd - WSJ.com

It's unfortunate that the disenchantment cannot be reduced to a single slogan or sound byte. It is somewhat interesting that many here who distrust "mainstream media" Yet rely on it to learn about the protest issues. Perhaps this is a movement that needs to be experienced personally rather than through media dissection.

You make a very valid point. The problem with your theory is that GOOD people who obey the law and stay out of trouble do not have it in their nature to engage in such activity.

Dedicated to the cause...yeah right!

Occupy London: 90% of tents in St Paul's protest camp are left empty overnight | Mail Online

The foreign press is doing a credible job of reporting the OWS.

No big surprise! I expect the foreign press would be more objective than our biased mainstream media in this country.

So protesting economic conditions are just not what a good conservative like y'all up in NE texas would consider doing?

EXCLUSIVE: OCCUPY WALL ST. Unaired Footage FOX reporter OWNED - YouTube

Has this clip been shown on fox?