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MTI 10-26-2011 08:16 PM

"Personhood" Amendments on Ballots
 
Fertilized Embryo Would Be Legally "Human"

If Proposition 26 passes, abortion foes hope it will build momentum for a broader national assault on Roe vs. Wade. Supporters say similar propositions will be featured on ballots in Florida, South Dakota and Ohio in 2012.

Both sides in the debate agree that the measure would outlaw abortion, even in the cases of rape and incest. But there is disagreement about what other, potentially wide-ranging effects it may have.


That could be an issue for a lot of "frozen" humans in fertility clinics in Mississippi.

kerry 10-26-2011 08:34 PM

They've tried at least twice in Colorado. Soundly defeated both times.

Honus 10-26-2011 09:03 PM

Amending the Constitution over a label is silly. I wish these "conservatives" would keep their hands off of the Constitution.

tjts1 10-26-2011 09:10 PM

I'm surprised none of these nut jobs don't take issue with a corporation's personhood.

Botnst 10-26-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 2817303)
I'm surprised none of these nut jobs don't take issue with a corporation's personhood.

What is the origin of that term? Is it limited to corporations or are other things thus animated?

tjts1 10-26-2011 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2817333)
What is the origin of that term? Is it limited to corporations or are other things thus animated?

Ask the Supreme Court about it.
Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

Chris Bell 10-26-2011 10:58 PM

On the other side of the nuball coin are these idiots..

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spdrun 10-26-2011 11:01 PM

World population just reached 7 bln. We need all the abortion we can get!!!

Botnst 10-27-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 2817344)

I'll bet it predates CU vs FEC. Want to take the bet?

Air&Road 10-27-2011 08:09 AM

A great amendment. Of course if you enjoy murdering unborn human beings, then it's easy to see why you would not like it.

Air&Road 10-27-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 2817348)
World population just reached 7 bln. We need all the abortion we can get!!!


So are you going to volunteer to murder all these unborn human beings. From your post it sounds as if you would enjoy it immensely.

MTI 10-27-2011 08:18 AM

Unfortunately, this amendment has the potential to reduce medical services to women, not just termination of pregnancy services. Being charged with homicide, either murder or manslaughter can have quite the chilling effect, along with the potential for civil liability.

kerry 10-27-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2817444)
A great amendment. Of course if you enjoy murdering unborn human beings, then it's easy to see why you would not like it.

What happened to your commitment to the Bible? I thought your first principle was to consult the law of God? Biblical law is pretty clear that a fetus in utero is not the equal of a born human.

Cal Learner 10-27-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2817472)
What happened to your commitment to the Bible? I thought your first principle was to consult the law of God? Biblical law is pretty clear that a fetus in utero is not the equal of a born human.

No fair, requiring a man to justify his quirkiness!

aklim 10-27-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2817444)
A great amendment. Of course if you enjoy murdering unborn human beings, then it's easy to see why you would not like it.

Then in all fairness, lets make sure it is a life we are terminating. Use the same tests that the ER would use to determine death. If it is NOT alive, proceed

If alive, remove fetus and put it into someone who is willing. After all, the host should have the right to say who stays and who goes. I cannot expect you to host someone because I like them if you are unwilling. You want, you got.


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