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Old 10-10-2011, 01:16 PM
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More stupid mechanical questions...

In no particular order, please help m understand the following drive-train terms I frequently am confused about:

1) Split transfer case - dating gone wrong?!...

2) Divorced transfer case - marriage gone wrong... hehe. Divorced from what?!

3) When they say 'you end up with a taller 1st gear' does this indicate the potential power loss?

Thanks, I'm afraid there will be more silliness to come...
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Divorced transfer case means it's not directly connected to the transmission. Taller first gear means the 'strides are longer' hence you can't drive as slow in first gear as a shorter first gear which takes little tiny strides.
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Kerry gave some good explanations.

I think when they refer to a spit transfer case, they are talking about one that comes apart front to rear with bolts all around holding the two halves together. When rebuilding, you lay one case on the bench, lay in your gears and shaft then lower the other half into place and bolt together.
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Could split transfer case mean high and low ranges?
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Taller first gear means the 'strides are longer' hence you can't drive as slow in first gear as a shorter first gear which takes little tiny strides.
Thx for all the feedback -

This was in reference to a hybrid transmission build - combining one with the other to arrive at a hybrid version that can be transplanted behind a diesel.

I would think that this 'longer strides' situation probably isn't a very desirable outcome I would guess... maybe the question to ask would be for the degree of difference from one vs the other before proper judgement could be made..
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Could split transfer case mean high and low ranges?

Kerry, you might be right. I don't remember ever seeing a 4X4 transfer case that doesn't have a high and low range though.
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I've seen plenty. MTVR, FMTV, and various poseur SUV's have them.
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Ok - new questions: what's a slushbox?
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Ok - new questions: what's a slushbox?
we used to use that expression for the old hydromatic 2 speed auto. They had to use a lot of slip to get going.
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Ok - new questions: what's a slushbox?

Automatic transmission.
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Automatic transmission.
Thx - some of these terms they throw around... it kills me.
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Stall torque...

What is a 'stall torque' on a torque converter and why is it important?! A term that I see frequently used is something like this: "a torque converter has a wrong stall torque for that engine"...

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What is a 'stall torque' on a torque converter and why is it important?! A term that I see frequently used is something like this: "a torque converter has a wrong stall torque for that engine"...

Thx,
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When the car is in drive & not moving, its the amount of torque that the torque converter can apply to its output.
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What is a 'stall torque' on a torque converter and why is it important?! A term that I see frequently used is something like this: "a torque converter has a wrong stall torque for that engine"...

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Never seen that particular term, myself. ( perhaps it's the Australian equivalent to "stall SPEED".
Stall Speed ( I think) is the max rpm that the TC (Torque Converter) will allow with the vehicle not moving, i.e. brakes locked and throttle floored.

TC is a pretty interesting device; much more than a simple fliud coupling, it does that, plus multiplies torque and then nearly locks up, even w/o a clutch at around 95% efficiency. Without a TC, automatics, were indeed, "slush boxes", very slow on initial acceleration.

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