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Old 11-01-2011, 04:11 PM
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I went on a diet that reduced my caloric intake by approximately 1000 calories per day from what I usually consume. In theory, this should result in a weight loss of 2 lbs per week, based on the idea that a pound of fat contains 3500 calories. Today is the fourth day I've been on the diet, and I weighed myself for the first time since starting. I have lost 3 lbs. According to theory, I should have lost about 1. What gives?

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Old 11-01-2011, 04:16 PM
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Water weight.
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:19 PM
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It varies considerably over the course of the day due to water retention, it's not a fast and hard number during the course of a single day, you could be + or minus a few lbs based on the amount of your fluid intake and the amount of salt you have consumed. Weigh yourself in the mornings before you have coffe and bfast and after you use the restroom, and then compare those morning numbers to each other and see if the 2 lbs is the result, for example, each Monday morning's weight should be 2lb less then the previous Monday, on an empty stomach with an empty bladder and colon.

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Old 11-01-2011, 04:22 PM
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Kind of what I thought. The immediate reason for me going on a diet turned out to be erroneous*, but I decided to continue it for a while to see what happens to the rate of weight loss, and because I am a disgusting fat body and I really do need to lose some weight. I'm expecting to slow down to about 2 pounds per week, but I'm not sure how long that will take.

*Thought I was going to have to wear my dress blues from boot camp (10+ years and about 15 pounds ago) this drill weekend. Plans changed.
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:39 PM
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I just got onto a diet regime thanks to porking myself to the point of almost-diabetes. Doc said unless I wanted to cross the line-of-no-return into insulin-needle land, I had to drop twenty lbs. I've dropped about nineteen in two months or so. I used a "modified Atkins", declare war on sugar and completely eliminate it from the diet, no cheating, no excuses. Cut carbs to the equivalent of one slice of bread a day, and watch fructose sugars by avoiding fruit juices, stick with low fat milk, coffee/tea or bottled water. Avoid sauces of all kinds. Eat all the pure protein you want, fish, eggs, and lean meat, but don't overally freak out on the fat because your body will flush the stuff if you are not eating carbs and sugar so go ahead and have a hamburger or steak once and a while, just make sure not to slather it in mayo or something. Go hog wild on salads and greens with "lite" salad dressings, and kill the cravings with sugar free ice cream (blue bell makes the best) and sugar-free chocolate candies and cookies. Finally, drink twice as much water as usual. Once I made all that a habit, the 2lbs a week became routine, at the rate I'm going I'll be under 175 in a week.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:16 PM
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I just got onto a diet regime thanks to porking myself to the point of almost-diabetes. Doc said unless I wanted to cross the line-of-no-return into insulin-needle land, I had to drop twenty lbs. I've dropped about nineteen in two months or so. I used a "modified Atkins", declare war on sugar and completely eliminate it from the diet, no cheating, no excuses. Cut carbs to the equivalent of one slice of bread a day, and watch fructose sugars by avoiding fruit juices, stick with low fat milk, coffee/tea or bottled water. Avoid sauces of all kinds. Eat all the pure protein you want, fish, eggs, and lean meat, but don't overally freak out on the fat because your body will flush the stuff if you are not eating carbs and sugar so go ahead and have a hamburger or steak once and a while, just make sure not to slather it in mayo or something. Go hog wild on salads and greens with "lite" salad dressings, and kill the cravings with sugar free ice cream (blue bell makes the best) and sugar-free chocolate candies and cookies. Finally, drink twice as much water as usual. Once I made all that a habit, the 2lbs a week became routine, at the rate I'm going I'll be under 175 in a week.
Nice, I've had good results with keto diet as well. My motivation is a bit different so I cycled and carbed up (essentially a weightlifting/"bodybuilding" diet), lost about 15 lbs in a month and a half, all of it fat. Unfortunately I got sidelined with an injury so I've gained some of it back. The epic and eternal battle!

In terms of water weight, chances are the OP cut a ton of sodium out of his diet. Sodium is directly related to water retention and is good for at least a few pounds day to day.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:23 PM
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If you drink Diet sodas then you might want to check the sodium content on the side of the can. Some of them have enough sodium in them to cause you to retain a pound of water.

And if you just stop drinking soft drinks altogether you will lose weight as you will not be consuming so much sugar.

In diets the little things add up.
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and kill the cravings with sugar free ice cream (blue bell makes the best) and sugar-free chocolate candies and cookies.
Go easy on the sugar free candy. Most of it is sweetened with Malitol, which can have a laxative effect when consumed in large quantities.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:31 PM
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Ah, em,, yes.... I am quite aware of that now. It also has a rather embarrassing gassification effect. But it sure does kill cravings, man, I was like willing to kill for a box of donuts, and then I'd have a bowl of Blue Bell No Sugar! Chocolate and I'd be cool.

Yes, I forgot to mention, exercise is key. I decided to take up yard work with a vengeance. This is no $hit, I hand-dug a complete underground sprinkler system for my house, by myself with a shovel, and then shoveled in an entire dump truck load of sandy loam into the gardens. I just had five yards of river pebbles delivered for my next round. It sure beat paying 90$ a month for health club membership, and I saved about 5 grand in the process.
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Old 11-01-2011, 05:32 PM
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Some of the weight loss may be from not replacing your glycogen supplies. Stored glycogen requires water (you can't just store sugar in your body.

You may have also cut back on the sodium. Normal human sweat is about 1g/liter sodium to water. So if you don't replace the sodium any extra water just gets excreted.
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I just got onto a diet regime thanks to porking myself to the point of almost-diabetes. Doc said unless I wanted to cross the line-of-no-return into insulin-needle land, I had to drop twenty lbs. I've dropped about nineteen in two months or so. I used a "modified Atkins", declare war on sugar and completely eliminate it from the diet, no cheating, no excuses. Cut carbs to the equivalent of one slice of bread a day, and watch fructose sugars by avoiding fruit juices, stick with low fat milk, coffee/tea or bottled water. Avoid sauces of all kinds. Eat all the pure protein you want, fish, eggs, and lean meat, but don't overally freak out on the fat because your body will flush the stuff if you are not eating carbs and sugar so go ahead and have a hamburger or steak once and a while, just make sure not to slather it in mayo or something. Go hog wild on salads and greens with "lite" salad dressings, and kill the cravings with sugar free ice cream (blue bell makes the best) and sugar-free chocolate candies and cookies. Finally, drink twice as much water as usual. Once I made all that a habit, the 2lbs a week became routine, at the rate I'm going I'll be under 175 in a week.
I also did the Atkins thing. At my heaviest I weighed 284 lbs. I have lost 65lbs. and kept if off for 3 years now. It's worth a try. Also my diabetes is pretty much gone. Take care of yourself. Also I have lost an additional 10lbs. when I stopped drinking beer a while back. I'm sober and loving it.
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I wish my thread in DD about my non-working blower got this much attention.

I'm keeping it pretty simple, but the result is pretty similar to what Jolly Roger is doing. A few months ago I kept track of everything I ate and drank, except water, for five days and then calculated my intake of calories and various nutrients. I came up with an average of 2636 calories per day. I decided to cut the calories by 1000, but keep my protein intake adequate to maintain muscle mass. My original goal was 100 grams per day, but I've been averaging a little over 80. So far it seems to be working. I was concerned about glycogen depletion affecting my PT regimen, but so far it doesn't seem to be a problem. I was expecting to be a lot hungrier a lot more of the time, but that hasn't happened to any great extent. I think the high protein content has something to do with that. I don't drink sodas anyway, and my candy and/or ice cream consumption happens maybe once a month. I don't do artificial sweeteners or fake fat.

My PT program consists of a three day cycle. Day 1 is lifting-upper body for about 50 minutes. Day 2 is a long bike ride, and day 3 is a four mile run/walk in which I run for the first part of each mile and then walk the rest. I've been gradually extending the length of the run portion.

Edit: Speaking of beer, I've quit drinking for extended periods of time on two occasions and didn't lose any weight. I think the environment may have had something to do with it. Both times I was working a lot of hours, to the point of not having much time for exercise. Most of the exercise I did was weight training since there wasn't much opportunity for cardio, and I ate most of my meals in chow halls staffed by third country nationals who are apparently told in their orientation that Americans like to eat more food in one meal than a family in their home country eats in a week.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:03 PM
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I just got onto a diet regime thanks to porking myself to the point of almost-diabetes. Doc said unless I wanted to cross the line-of-no-return into insulin-needle land, I had to drop twenty lbs. I've dropped about nineteen in two months or so. I used a "modified Atkins", declare war on sugar and completely eliminate it from the diet, no cheating, no excuses. Cut carbs to the equivalent of one slice of bread a day, and watch fructose sugars by avoiding fruit juices, stick with low fat milk, coffee/tea or bottled water. Avoid sauces of all kinds. Eat all the pure protein you want, fish, eggs, and lean meat, but don't overally freak out on the fat because your body will flush the stuff if you are not eating carbs and sugar so go ahead and have a hamburger or steak once and a while, just make sure not to slather it in mayo or something. Go hog wild on salads and greens with "lite" salad dressings, and kill the cravings with sugar free ice cream (blue bell makes the best) and sugar-free chocolate candies and cookies. Finally, drink twice as much water as usual. Once I made all that a habit, the 2lbs a week became routine, at the rate I'm going I'll be under 175 in a week.
Dude!! that ain't right.
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Nice, I've had good results with keto diet as well. My motivation is a bit different so I cycled and carbed up (essentially a weightlifting/"bodybuilding" diet), lost about 15 lbs in a month and a half, all of it fat. Unfortunately I got sidelined with an injury so I've gained some of it back. The epic and eternal battle!

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Water weight? Might be you lost some muscle mass too when you reduced your calories. 1000 calories is a pretty radical deficit.

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