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Old 11-02-2011, 01:33 PM
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That about covers it. I find it particularly odious that one member is using it as a venue to bring up the subject of rape. Why?
The idiocy of this thread can be summed up in on sentence: According to 10fords, the fact that one soldier raped a women means the entire US Army are rapists.

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Old 11-02-2011, 03:01 PM
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Using 10fords logic, 10fords himself must be a terrorist:


FBI entraps old white guys in terror sting, just like it does to young Muslim men
The Justice Department proves its commitment to equality by indicting right-wing Christians for an unlikely plot

BY ALEX PAREENE
salon.com

TOPICS:TERRORISM, WAR ON TERROR, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, FBI, CRIME
Every now and then, right-wingers like to argue for the inherently violent nature of Islam by pretending the very of idea of a “Christian terrorist” is unimaginably ludicrous. These right-wingers also tend to ignore abortion clinic bombers and other Christian and right-wing murderers who follow the terrorist script, so don’t expect them to devote much time to the story of the Waffle House gang recently indicted by the FBI.

Four aged right-wingers apparently plotted to carry out a mass murder based on the plot of a thriller written by frequent Fox guest Mike Vanderboegh. They planned to “save this country” by attacking Washington, D.C., and Atlanta with ricin and botulinium toxin. And they were targeting the government:

What was the ostensible purpose of all this killing? Saving the country of course. “There is no way for us, as militiamen, to save this country, to save Georgia, without doing something that’s highly, highly illegal: murder,” Thomas reportedly said. “When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people have got to die.” The FBI also alleges that “Thomas, Roberts and others discussed the need to obtain unregistered silencers and explosive devices for use in attacks against federal government buildings and employees, as well as against local police.”

The group also had a “bucket list” of politicians and members of the media that they planned to kill, which seems to be a misreading of the “bucket list” concept. Two of the men bought “what they believed was a silencer and and unregistered explosive” from an FBI informant, as well. They also — with the informant — drove to Atlanta to “scope out” IRS and ATF buildings.

The “good news,” I guess, is that now the Justice Department is carrying out the same ridiculous stings on old Christian guys that it regularly carries out on young Muslim guys. Because let’s be honest, we have no way of knowing whether these four guys would’ve actually acted on their anti-government beliefs if they hadn’t been led to action by the “informants.” They met at a Waffle House and called themselves “the covert group.” They range in age from 65 to 73. How much of a real threat could they possibly have been? How much of a role did the “informant” play in pushing the men toward formulating an actual terror plot instead of just grumbling fantasies of revolution over omelets?

They may have been able to manufacture ricin — one of the men “used to work as a lab technician for a U.S. Department of Agriculture agency known as the Agricultural Research Service,” according to ABC News — but it’s unclear how practical ricin is as a chemical weapon. A terrorist needs tons of ricin to kill people through mass dispersal. Ricin is what terrorists turn to when they fail to make anthrax.

This looks like the same “entrapment in all but name” approach to fighting terror that the Justice Department has been pursuing against American Muslims for years. What will be interesting to see is whether the entrapment defense works any better for a gang of four elderly white guys than it does for teenagers with names like “Hosam Maher Husein Smadi.”
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:44 PM
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So you are alleging there is some sort of widespread raping going on, and that the point of OWS is to rape people? Or are you just taking a single case in a movement involving hundreds of thousands of people who are protesting in public parks where anyone can walk in, and blowing it all out of proportion in an attempt to do a guilt-by-association thing that has no real basis in any logic at all because you have a political agenda? You wouldn't do that would you? Perhaps you have like, some facts to back up your alleged dirty-hippie crime wave? From what most people can see, those who are not blinded by idealogical hatred, is that this is a group of people who are mostly like, unemployed, thanks to a Wall Street disaster created by Wall Street, and those who did not regulate their criminal activities. But you, you can go on thinking that those are a couple of hundred thousand sex criminals, I'm sure that works for you.
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:58 PM
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Using 10fords logic, 10fords himself must be a terrorist:


FBI entraps old white guys in terror sting, just like it does to young Muslim men
The Justice Department proves its commitment to equality by indicting right-wing Christians for an unlikely plot

BY ALEX PAREENE
salon.com

TOPICS:TERRORISM, WAR ON TERROR, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, FBI, CRIME
Every now and then, right-wingers like to argue for the inherently violent nature of Islam by pretending the very of idea of a “Christian terrorist” is unimaginably ludicrous. These right-wingers also tend to ignore abortion clinic bombers and other Christian and right-wing murderers who follow the terrorist script, so don’t expect them to devote much time to the story of the Waffle House gang recently indicted by the FBI.

Four aged right-wingers apparently plotted to carry out a mass murder based on the plot of a thriller written by frequent Fox guest Mike Vanderboegh. They planned to “save this country” by attacking Washington, D.C., and Atlanta with ricin and botulinium toxin. And they were targeting the government:

What was the ostensible purpose of all this killing? Saving the country of course. “There is no way for us, as militiamen, to save this country, to save Georgia, without doing something that’s highly, highly illegal: murder,” Thomas reportedly said. “When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people have got to die.” The FBI also alleges that “Thomas, Roberts and others discussed the need to obtain unregistered silencers and explosive devices for use in attacks against federal government buildings and employees, as well as against local police.”

The group also had a “bucket list” of politicians and members of the media that they planned to kill, which seems to be a misreading of the “bucket list” concept. Two of the men bought “what they believed was a silencer and and unregistered explosive” from an FBI informant, as well. They also — with the informant — drove to Atlanta to “scope out” IRS and ATF buildings.

The “good news,” I guess, is that now the Justice Department is carrying out the same ridiculous stings on old Christian guys that it regularly carries out on young Muslim guys. Because let’s be honest, we have no way of knowing whether these four guys would’ve actually acted on their anti-government beliefs if they hadn’t been led to action by the “informants.” They met at a Waffle House and called themselves “the covert group.” They range in age from 65 to 73. How much of a real threat could they possibly have been? How much of a role did the “informant” play in pushing the men toward formulating an actual terror plot instead of just grumbling fantasies of revolution over omelets?

They may have been able to manufacture ricin — one of the men “used to work as a lab technician for a U.S. Department of Agriculture agency known as the Agricultural Research Service,” according to ABC News — but it’s unclear how practical ricin is as a chemical weapon. A terrorist needs tons of ricin to kill people through mass dispersal. Ricin is what terrorists turn to when they fail to make anthrax.

This looks like the same “entrapment in all but name” approach to fighting terror that the Justice Department has been pursuing against American Muslims for years. What will be interesting to see is whether the entrapment defense works any better for a gang of four elderly white guys than it does for teenagers with names like “Hosam Maher Husein Smadi.”
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:17 AM
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Mother rapers! FATHER RAPERS!
At least they're not convicted child rapists like Glenn Beck was.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:23 AM
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At least they're not convicted child rapists like Glenn Beck was.
Ahh, now I know why G. Beck never looked 'Quite right' to me.
Never met the man personally..but there are some people , that just by looking at them, you know they need to go get looked at by a shrink doc..or be taken in for interrogation...or at least investigated...child rapist huh.....damn.
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Ahh, now I know why G. Beck never looked 'Quite right' to me.
Never met the man personally..but there are some people , that just by looking at them, you know they need to go get looked at by a shrink doc..or be taken in for interrogation...or at least investigated...child rapist huh.....damn.
Actually, the whole thing was an Internet hoax/deliberately created urban legend (not that I have any love for Beck).

Problem is that there are some people who are obviously crazy, but there are even more crazies that look and act 100% normal in the open. Be more worried about the latter than the former.
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Ahh, now I know why G. Beck never looked 'Quite right' to me.
Never met the man personally..but there are some people , that just by looking at them, you know they need to go get looked at by a shrink doc..or be taken in for interrogation...or at least investigated...child rapist huh.....damn.
I think you are joking here but I am hearing this kind of thinking from people these days who take themselves seriously. "You can tell when someone is honest", "You can tell when someone is lying", etc. Some of the stuff sounds like professional witchhunting is making a comeback.

A lot of the stuff is family oriented (other families) and you don't have to listen long to hear the contradictions. Too much of it is public and all too superficial.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:49 AM
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I think you are joking here but I am hearing this kind of thinking from people these days who take themselves seriously. "You can tell when someone is honest", "You can tell when someone is lying", etc. Some of the stuff sounds like professional witchhunting is making a comeback.

A lot of the stuff is family oriented (other families) and you don't have to listen long to hear the contradictions. Too much of it is public and all too superficial.
These are times when phrenology or even a divining rod would be useful, as I cannot accurately discern the character of another person just by looking at them.
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:41 PM
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If you ever want to get out of jury duty just tell the judge you can tell if someone is guilty just by looking at them. Tell him "First glance and I know, I don't have to hear a word, people lie". If you are not excused from duty then you need to find another place to live, quickly.
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:16 PM
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Now remember everybody..the left wing main stream media wants you to believe it was the Tea Party protests that were violent...

Occupy Oakland struggles with provocative fringe
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:26 PM
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Now remember everybody..the left wing main stream media wants you to believe it was the Tea Party protests that were violent...

Occupy Oakland struggles with provocative fringe
Hmmm, maybe next time the OPD will think twice before using tear gas canisters and bean bags at peaceful protesters. Crazy idea right?
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:43 PM
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Hmmm, maybe next time the OPD will think twice before using tear gas canisters and bean bags at peaceful protesters. Crazy idea right?
Hmmmm, maybe next time the protesters will obey the police and not get tear gassed. Life's full of choices, the protesters made their choice, a little late to whine about the consequences of their decision.
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:12 PM
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Oakland port closure costing a lot of people their days wages..

"An estimated 11,000 workers lost wages as a result of the port closure, which is normally open 24 hours. The economic impact of the closure was also severe, and an estimated $4 million in revenue was lost as a result of the 12-hour closure."

Now remember kiddies these are left wing protesters so it's all good.

City Administrator’s Office: Occupy Oakland strike was “primarily peaceful” – Oakland North : North Oakland News, Food, Art and Events

Instead of spreading the wealth, their spreading the misery. Just like every good socialist.
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Oakland port closure costing a lot of people their days wages..

"An estimated 11,000 workers lost wages as a result of the port closure, which is normally open 24 hours. The economic impact of the closure was also severe, and an estimated $4 million in revenue was lost as a result of the 12-hour closure."

Now remember kiddies these are left wing protesters so it's all good.

City Administrator’s Office: Occupy Oakland strike was “primarily peaceful” – Oakland North : North Oakland News, Food, Art and Events

Instead of spreading the wealth, their spreading the misery. Just like every good socialist.
Like those Socialist Bankers on Wall St who took the bailout money? The same ones the OWS people and a lot of others are protesting? Every good socialist?

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